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Old 02-02-2014, 12:35 PM   #31
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In this business it is always business for the most part. But, if you can find a rep to call a friend your business relationship will be even better.

Luckily I can call my reps my friends. That's why it works well for me. They care for me beyond business, and that's why I don't have to worry about my business.
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Old 02-02-2014, 02:42 PM   #32
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You missed the point of that analogy, dude.
Certainly wasn't my intention to appear disrespectful or dismissive to anybody on these boards. I commend much of the advice given to aspiring writers from fellow professionals.

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Old 02-02-2014, 06:54 PM   #33
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Certainly wasn't my intention to appear disrespectful or dismissive to anybody on these boards. I commend much of the advice given to aspiring writers from fellow professionals.
No worries, Mintclub. I appreciate your gallant attempt to defend my honor. (Sorry, that sounds "period" doesn't it? And I was going to try to quit writing period.)

Just kidding. In reply to the others who encouraged me to write what I want, I wholeheartedly agree. I did begin writing a modern script; something like "Lost in Translation" set in a different country. But it brings me down when I work on it so I shelved it after 30 pages. I might begin again when I don't mind being depressed.
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Old 02-03-2014, 11:52 AM   #34
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Does it really matter if a rep likes you? Only reps I ever see hanging out with clients are reps who make a TON of money outta said clients. Writers shouldn't care if a manager or an agent likes them. They should care if a manager or an agent likes their writing. This is a business not a popularity contest. My reps seem cool, we get on well enough but I wouldn't wanna hang out with them. It's about the work.

Appreciate you're a manager Michael but I don't think it's cool to be telling young writers to go and find reps that like them. It's ALWAYS about the material not how you vibe as people. Poor form.
It was an analogy. You missed the point of it.

Geoff is correct. It was reffering to material. Though, he is also correct, liking a client as a person is also important.

To reply to what you said, "this is a business, not a popularity contest". Actually, this business is a big popularity contest. Often writers win jobs because they are the ones an exec wants to roll up their sleeves and work with for long hours over the course of months. Many reps have read scripts and then met the writer to think "this person is an *******" or "this person is so introverted he won't survive in rooms" and not signed that person.

There are many factors that go in to having a successful career. Being a talented writer is just checking one of the many boxes.

And you should care if your manager or agent likes you. You are a team. You work TOGETHER.

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Old 02-03-2014, 12:25 PM   #35
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It was an analogy. You missed the point of it.

Geoff is correct. It was reffering to material. Though, he is also correct, liking a client as a person is also important.

To reply to what you said, "this is a business, not a popularity contest". Actually, this business is a big popularity contest. Often writers win jobs because they are the ones an exec wants to roll up their sleeves and work with for long hours over the course of months. Many reps have read scripts and then met the writer to think "this person is an *******" or "this person is so introverted he won't survive in rooms" and not signed that person.

There are many factors that go in to having a successful career. Being a talented writer is just checking one of the many boxes.

And you should care if your manager or agent likes you. You are a team. You work TOGETHER.

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Well said.

The one thing I'll add for the OP is the mere fact that you are still querying should speak volumes about whether or not this person cares to rep you. Even in most hip pockets the rep will make it clear that he/she would prefer to handle getting your script out - it's part of whatever strategy the two of you come up with. The fact that you are still querying on your own is evidence to that fact that this rep has no strategy for you. He's simply stoking the fire so that he can be the first one to get the heat. It takes minutes out of his day to email you and check in and could one day pay off if he strings you along. But he isn't putting any skin in the game, or as another manager I know says "Sweat Equity". Just my two cents.

Best of luck either way!
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Old 02-03-2014, 12:58 PM   #36
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Even in most hip pockets the rep will make it clear that he/she would prefer to handle getting your script out - it's part of whatever strategy the two of you come up with. The fact that you are still querying on your own is evidence to that fact that this rep has no strategy for you. He's simply stoking the fire so that he can be the first one to get the heat. It takes minutes out of his day to email you and check in and could one day pay off if he strings you along. But he isn't putting any skin in the game, or as another manager I know says "Sweat Equity". Just my two cents.

Best of luck either way!
Thanks for this. It may explain what's been going on the past year.
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Old 02-03-2014, 02:32 PM   #37
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It was an analogy. You missed the point of it.

Geoff is correct. It was reffering to material. Though, he is also correct, liking a client as a person is also important.

To reply to what you said, "this is a business, not a popularity contest". Actually, this business is a big popularity contest. Often writers win jobs because they are the ones an exec wants to roll up their sleeves and work with for long hours over the course of months. Many reps have read scripts and then met the writer to think "this person is an *******" or "this person is so introverted he won't survive in rooms" and not signed that person.

There are many factors that go in to having a successful career. Being a talented writer is just checking one of the many boxes.

And you should care if your manager or agent likes you. You are a team. You work TOGETHER.

Best,

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With all due respect, I held my hands up and apologized for any misinterpretation or offence caused. Keep your advice for those that ask. If I need any, I'll speak to my reps. Thanks.
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Old 02-03-2014, 05:34 PM   #38
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With all due respect, I held my hands up and apologized for any misinterpretation or offence caused. Keep your advice for those that ask. If I need any, I'll speak to my reps. Thanks.
Just replying in full to a response directed at me. No worries.

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Old 02-04-2014, 01:24 AM   #39
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With all due respect, I held my hands up and apologized for any misinterpretation or offence caused. Keep your advice for those that ask. If I need any, I'll speak to my reps. Thanks.
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