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Old 02-29-2016, 07:58 PM   #21
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I understand why people would think this. But it's not necessarily true.

I worked at one place where we would consistently send out a combined 30 or so pages of notes from 5-6 different people plus a combined effort when there was zero chance the project was going anywhere. We'd still be doing that on the 10th rewrite too. And there are actually some places that will always send back detailed notes to people no matter how they felt about the project because somebody is getting tasked with doing the damn coverage, so why not.

If you know with absolute certainty that the thoughts are those of the person who owns/runs the company? Then maybe it does mean something that the notes are more detailed, especially if they're a busy person. But odds are, the notes are not just the one person's thoughts (my current boss doesn't read scripts, at all). And there's also the argument that, if there's enough wrong with the script for such detailed notes, then perhaps it isn't that great.
I hear you…nothing in this industry is necessarily true or false, everyone has a conflicting story to present as evidence in favor or against.

But, yes, I meant, as you said, if you are certain the notes are coming from say, the producer himself, and you've actually met with them and they showed great excitement about the project and you've been building this relationship over some months through the development process of going back and forth on drafts, emails, meetings because they've attached as the producer of the material and asked their reps [5 of them at CAA] to help package it -- and have begun discussing director submissions with you [something in that realm is what I'm referring to].

I think that producer believes in the script or he wouldn't be wasting ANY time with the script. Too many other projects he could be dealing with. Still… sure it could all fall apart on a dime.

^That^ as opposed to a blind submissions and receiving blind notes from some unknown reader.

As for my project. The producer is the most excited guy in the room at meetings. I honestly don't know if his execs get it the way he does and may not even like it. Hard to say.

But I agree with your general takeaway. Totally depends. As with everything in this business. The distinction you bring up is fully relevant, as it is an important one.

ADDENDUM: As I proceed with my project I am fully aware of the potential [strong potential] for it to die literally overnight. Despite whatever degree of excitement or nice words anyone has for it, now. Been there done that. One day we're rolling with a full team in place, looking like it's going to get made, overnight it's dead. Via email no less. Showrunner said something to the effect of "I've taken another gig and therefore no longer available. Best of luck!" Without that piece it died, everyone left the project for various reasons. And… I had no idea a showrunner could simply walk from their contract [I guess that's what you get to do if you're important enough]. Lesson learned.

^probably something to keep in mind, OP^

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Old 02-29-2016, 10:49 PM   #22
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He's not wanting to develop it to produce, he's developing it to show to his team of managers. His main comment was that since this is my first script being sent out it's important that we get it right, and he wants it to be perfect when he presents it to the teammates.
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Old 03-01-2016, 01:49 PM   #23
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I sent an email on friday afternoon saying something to the effect of "Thanks for meeting, I look forward to working together. I should have the new draft for you this week." I didn't get a response, but like I said, it was friday afternoon, and there wasn't really anything particularly necessary for him to respond to.
While at some point not hearing back from people becomes a "not interested," it's easy to forget how many emails these people get. Heck, there's a producer I'm working with who didn't respond to an email of mine from a week ago. I pinged him again this week and heard back. It happens. (Not that you should ping this guy again - I only do that when I'm waiting on something actionable from them).

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He's not wanting to develop it to produce, he's developing it to show to his team of managers. His main comment was that since this is my first script being sent out it's important that we get it right, and he wants it to be perfect when he presents it to the teammates.
Well, I'll give you my standard advice about this, which would apply if he's your manager or not:

Unless you're being paid, only ever make changes you believe in. I just don't know many (or any) stories about people writing to make somebody else happy which have happy endings.

I also don't think page notes are necessarily relevant or not at this point. Generally, if you're giving somebody structural notes, you hold off on the page note stuff - there's time enough for that later. The note, "The rear view mirrors on this motorcycle need to be more stylish," is completely unnecessary if there is also a note that, "This motorcycle should be an SUV."
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Old 03-01-2016, 06:52 PM   #24
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His note was insightful and critical to the story so I think it needs to be addressed. I'm going to send him the updated draft, and see if he responds. If not, c'est la vie.
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Old 03-03-2016, 05:55 PM   #25
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Small update: I sent him the new draft and he responded within the hour that he was "looking forward to reading it and would have notes asap" so that's a good sign.
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Old 03-03-2016, 06:50 PM   #26
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Congrats… You will hear nothing for 2-4 weeks. I'm going on week 5 [producer has 3 films shooting].

Back to writing that other thing, yeah?
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Old 03-16-2016, 01:07 AM   #27
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This Thursday it will be two weeks, not terribly long, but im wondering how long would be appropriate, and if it would be rude to reach out and see how it's coming?
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Old 03-16-2016, 03:03 AM   #28
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I'd give it another week. The email is exactly this.

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Checking in. Thanks!

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