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Old 11-13-2014, 03:58 PM   #1
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Default Can You (Still) Sell A Movie Idea As Logline?

I have a question about movie ideas.

I wonder if you can still find ways to sell only a movie idea only. That is thus a logline/moviepitch of 2-3 lines only and no script. ( I have made ome synopsis, but I figured out the people hunting for ideas only want to hear a logline first).

It started a long time ago since I was annoyed by the boring movies I saw and than started thinking of ideas myself. I read somewhere (book/internet) about moviepitches and that people send in ideas where sometimes a production company optioned it/or bought it and got a little exited about it.

I have made up 4 original movie ideas since (which as far as I know aren't existing movies yet) but do think now it is a mission impossible to do something with them. I am not a scriptwriter (far from that) but I hope there is someone here who can give me advice to pursue it or if this is such a mission impossible and drop it or should write a script.

In short: Can you still sell today a movie idea via a logline only?

I live in Europe, so I don't have any easy option to attend pitchfests or whatever they are called. Neither am I a (screen)writer, however maybe it is an option to find a person who is and see if that will help.

Thanks for your help!

Bob
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Old 11-13-2014, 04:07 PM   #2
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In short, no. You'd need some real clout to pull that off.

Find somebody to write it or attempt it yourself.
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Old 11-13-2014, 05:28 PM   #3
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I have a question about movie ideas.

I wonder if you can still find ways to sell only a movie idea only. That is thus a logline/moviepitch of 2-3 lines only and no script. ( I have made ome synopsis, but I figured out the people hunting for ideas only want to hear a logline first).

It started a long time ago since I was annoyed by the boring movies I saw and than started thinking of ideas myself. I read somewhere (book/internet) about moviepitches and that people send in ideas where sometimes a production company optioned it/or bought it and got a little exited about it.

I have made up 4 original movie ideas since (which as far as I know aren't existing movies yet) but do think now it is a mission impossible to do something with them. I am not a scriptwriter (far from that) but I hope there is someone here who can give me advice to pursue it or if this is such a mission impossible and drop it or should write a script.

In short: Can you still sell today a movie idea via a logline only?

I live in Europe, so I don't have any easy option to attend pitchfests or whatever they are called. Neither am I a (screen)writer, however maybe it is an option to find a person who is and see if that will help.

Thanks for your help!

Bob
Yes one can sell a pitch for a movie (which is essentially what you're talking about) but this usually only happens by established/working writer.

But for you specifically, probably not.
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Old 11-13-2014, 07:01 PM   #4
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No. If you really believe the idea is so exciting someone would sink a million Euros into it, you should be willing to spend 3-4 months writing it. Or hire someone who can. Or settle for telling great stories at bars.
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Old 11-13-2014, 10:15 PM   #5
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I have a question about movie ideas.

I wonder if you can still find ways to sell only a movie idea only. That is thus a logline/moviepitch of 2-3 lines only and no script. ( I have made ome synopsis, but I figured out the people hunting for ideas only want to hear a logline first).

It started a long time ago since I was annoyed by the boring movies I saw and than started thinking of ideas myself. I read somewhere (book/internet) about moviepitches and that people send in ideas where sometimes a production company optioned it/or bought it and got a little exited about it.

I have made up 4 original movie ideas since (which as far as I know aren't existing movies yet) but do think now it is a mission impossible to do something with them. I am not a scriptwriter (far from that) but I hope there is someone here who can give me advice to pursue it or if this is such a mission impossible and drop it or should write a script.

In short: Can you still sell today a movie idea via a logline only?

I live in Europe, so I don't have any easy option to attend pitchfests or whatever they are called. Neither am I a (screen)writer, however maybe it is an option to find a person who is and see if that will help.

Thanks for your help!

Bob
No. You can't. Ideas are out there by the millions. It's the execution of those ideas that end up being films. If you have a track record of execution, then yes, you can sell an idea. No track record, no sale.
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Old 11-13-2014, 11:08 PM   #6
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I have made up 4 original movie ideas since (which as far as I know aren't existing movies yet) but do think now it is a mission impossible to do something with them. I am not a scriptwriter (far from that) but I hope there is someone here who can give me advice to pursue it or if this is such a mission impossible and drop it or should write a script.
Why not hit http://www.imsdb.com/ and read the screenplays of your top 10 favorite movies, see how the pros did it, and have a go yourself? At the very least you'll develop the stories beyond the idea stage. Who knows, they might end up as novels one day, also.
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Old 11-14-2014, 09:58 AM   #7
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First of all, I basically agree with what everyone here says -- it's the execution that matters.

I've actually only met a handful of people in my entire life who DIDN'T have a great idea. Everyone has about a million ideas -- the waitress at the diner, the pool boy, the janitor at the high school -- but few have the chops to execute one at a professional level.

That being said, there is a contest from Script Pipeline called THE GREAT MOVIE IDEA CONTEST.

The final deadline for the 2014 contest is December 1st, so you might be in luck.

Here's the link:

http://scriptpipeline.com/shop/great-movie-idea-contest

Here's what they require:

For written pitches:
•Anything from a two-sentence logline to a 3-5 page treatment–entirely up to you on how to best present your idea. We don’t judge on format, we judge on the idea itself. Extended treatments and supplemental materials (illustrations, etc.) are also accepted. Please do not send full-length screenplays–summaries ONLY. Pitches may be emailed direct.
•Longer submissions are judged on the SAME criteria as short ones, so whatever length you think is best.
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Old 11-15-2014, 09:09 AM   #8
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Thanks for your input.

Confirms what I was already thinking that an idea needs a script.

I took a look at some scripts but don't think I will have the time and skillset to write something like that in a couple of months.

I will check out that competition, is that something more sites/production companies/other connected do? I found Robert Kosberg's website couple years ago but it doesn't seem up to date now/accepting pitches.

And is it an option to team up with a (starting) scriptwriter? Hiring one to do a script is not an option since I don't have money enough to have someone do it for me. But when you say "Ideas are there by the millions" problem I don't know if there are writers who are waiting for people with an idea.
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Old 11-15-2014, 10:13 AM   #9
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Thanks for your input.

Confirms what I was already thinking that an idea needs a script.

I took a look at some scripts but don't think I will have the time and skillset to write something like that in a couple of months.

I will check out that competition, is that something more sites/production companies/other connected do? I found Robert Kosberg's website couple years ago but it doesn't seem up to date now/accepting pitches.

And is it an option to team up with a (starting) scriptwriter? Hiring one to do a script is not an option since I don't have money enough to have someone do it for me. But when you say "Ideas are there by the millions" problem I don't know if there are writers who are waiting for people with an idea.
Anyone connected to that competition will want to see a script immediately from any winner. It's not about buying the ideas. It never is.

You can try and find a scriptwriter to work with you, but unless you're hiring them it will would have to be a collaborative effort, meaning their ideas where the story should go would have to equal yours. That's the only way you get a serious screenwriter without paying them.

And no, serious screenwriters aren't looking for ideas, they have their own.
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Old 11-15-2014, 11:48 AM   #10
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When you hear about an experienced writer selling a pitch, you have to understand that they're not selling, "This great idea."

What they're selling is "This great idea, as executed by me, a professional writer with a strong track record and a clear voice."

Essentially they're selling a spec script in advance of writing it.

Most amateurs don't really understand what constitutes a good idea. If Rossio and Elliot pitch me an idea, I know that it's battle-tested and will, fundamentally work as a movie. If Joe Schmoe off the street does, it probably won't - because there's a lot of non-obvious stuff that makes an idea work or not work, which amateurs are ignorant of.

Somebody - maybe NMS, I can't remember - once made an analogy to painting. If somebody said, "I have an idea for a painting, pay more for it and then go hire someone else to paint it," we'd laugh at them. The notion is absurd. We accept that "the idea for a painting" makes no sense apart from the execution for a painting.

What people don't understand is that talking about the idea for a movie like that is equally absurd.
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