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Old 03-05-2016, 11:13 AM   #1
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Default Looking for a literary agent for a non-fiction manuscript

Hey folks,

I used to be a regular here back when I was writing screenplays.

I recently made an amazing discovery about consciousness and gravity.

I've assembled a book proposal to shop to agents, but I'm not having much luck so far.

Was wondering if anyone here was a literary agent or could put me in contact with one?

Here is a link to my proposal if anyone is interested: https://drive.google.com/folderview?...&usp=sha ring
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Old 03-05-2016, 12:07 PM   #2
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http://agentquery.com/
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Old 03-05-2016, 01:43 PM   #3
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Hey, thanks for the link.

The list of agents I'm working off now is from is from the Publisher Marketplace website that I'm paying $25/month for. I've already contacted half the list of non-fiction science agents, but like I said no luck yet so I'm not sure how serious that list is.

I will check out your link to agent query.

Someone else had also mentioned querytracker, so I will have to give that a look as well.

Not sure what a good number of queries to send out is, but I have 40 in play and it's closing in on a month with no positive responses (but 7 rejections).

Having to send out hundreds of queries doesn't seem right to me so I was looking at maybe getting a referral or something.
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Old 03-05-2016, 02:50 PM   #4
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For publishing agents or film rights agents.

Gotta say, reading your proposal I cannot decipher what the book is nor the film rights potential. For me, it reads as an oversell with no real meat. Something to consider.
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Old 03-05-2016, 03:07 PM   #5
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I recently made an amazing discovery about consciousness and gravity.
Have you written a paper which details your "amazing discovery" and had that paper peer reviewed and published in a reputable scientific journal?
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Old 03-05-2016, 03:21 PM   #6
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For publishing agents or film rights agents.

Gotta say, reading your proposal I cannot decipher what the book is nor the film rights potential. For me, it reads as an oversell with no real meat. Something to consider.
Well, there kind of isn't supposed to be any "meat" - that's what the actual book is.

This would be like the "pre-appetizer", if someone wanted more like real appetizer I can furnish a detailed outline of each chapter instead of a summary.

Proposal don't call for outlines though because proposal already run 50+ pages (this one is 46 double spaced the way editors like - i just single space and reduced it for casuals) and outlines would likely double that and now you're almost reading half a book to decide if you want to buy it.
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Old 03-05-2016, 03:23 PM   #7
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Have you written a paper which details your "amazing discovery" and had that paper peer reviewed and published in a reputable scientific journal?
I don't have money for independent research - who does? - this book is meant to get people interested in "ideas" based on previous researches and attract said money for future studies
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Old 03-06-2016, 08:20 AM   #8
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I don't have money for independent research - who does? - this book is meant to get people interested in "ideas" based on previous researches and attract said money for future studies
So you weren't being entirely accurate when you said you had already made the discovery. You are describing an idea of something that you think might be true, and are looking for funding in order to find out if it is, so what you should be writing is not a book proposal to a lit agent, but a grant proposal to the NSF, NIH etc.

You should definitely contact the DDP poster Hans Gruber and get him to work up a visual presentation of this pitch.
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Old 03-07-2016, 11:02 AM   #9
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Well, there kind of isn't supposed to be any "meat" - that's what the actual book is.

This would be like the "pre-appetizer", if someone wanted more like real appetizer I can furnish a detailed outline of each chapter instead of a summary.

Proposal don't call for outlines though because proposal already run 50+ pages (this one is 46 double spaced the way editors like - i just single space and reduced it for casuals) and outlines would likely double that and now you're almost reading half a book to decide if you want to buy it.
Just saying… I can't tell what I'm [figuratively] selling.

I had a company that sold a few books to film rights. A few of the movies [3 of them] got made in the last few years, 2 were hits/Oscar nom bait.

Speaking for myself only: I'm not understanding the hook. Something to consider moving forward.
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Old 03-07-2016, 12:09 PM   #10
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So you weren't being entirely accurate when you said you had already made the discovery. You are describing an idea of something that you think might be true, and are looking for funding in order to find out if it is, so what you should be writing is not a book proposal to a lit agent, but a grant proposal to the NSF, NIH etc.

You should definitely contact the DDP poster Hans Gruber and get him to work up a visual presentation of this pitch.
Every discovery is different for how much "proof" people require. Einstein "proved" relativity with math - but math is just another symbolic language just like words are a symbolic language. Relativity wasn't experimentally "observed" until 7 years after Einstein had mathematically "proved" it.

Some people still don't feel like the "discovery" of evolution has been properly "proved' even 150 years later. The scientific theory of evolution is not something that lends itself well to "forward" predictions (it can look "backwards" at the fossil record to make some nice predictions there).

I feel like I have already made the "discovery". Now, it's just a matter of getting people to "accept" it. I will most likely include some math to prove points with calculations of gravity anomalies. But sometimes math is still not enough because theoretical math says string theory has been proven and a lot of people are not ready to "accept" that theory yet based solely on math. I have some other proof besides math I will include in my book, observations recorded on video of consciousness leaving the body - of course skeptics will say a human didn't see it so it didn't happen - well, telescopes see things humans can't and people accept those observations as facts. Basically it's a multi-pronged approach with math, observations, experiments and predictions (forwards + backwards) to the results of those experiments.

Science doesn't always have to come through "officially recognized" channels. If it's useful to humans and makes our lives better we don't really care where it came from. If you lived in Roswell and a UFO landed in your backyard - you wouldn't say well this didn't come from the NIH or NSF - so this crater and weird machine in my yard doesn't exist and neither do the technologies you ripped out of the ship - fiber optics, lasers, integrated circuits, night vision, silicon chips, etc, etc.

I will definitely contact Hans Gruber, like you mentioned and see if there is something we can work on together, so thank you for the guidance and the time spent looking at my work.
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