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Old 01-11-2010, 10:50 PM   #1
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Old 01-12-2010, 12:49 AM   #2
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I don't know if I can believe this, to be honest, for several reasons...

First off, I just checked out the posts you've made, and most of them have been about how amazingly well you're doing, faintly wrapped in questions. For example, your first post was about how you have a script you and your partner wrote. You said you got repped from it, and immediately got offers from networks and then got an A-list actor attached to produce. Now, I can believe that, except you asked people on this board whether or not you should have the actor in meetings with you. This is something you would ask your agent and manager, I think, because they would know. Why would you register on a screenwriting forum to ask that when you have people on speed dial who would know? The way the post came off was quite bragadocious, really, and "oh, look at me". That's how every single one of them have been. If you are doing so well, why would your posts be just about how well you're doing? People don't just join forums to brag. As a result, they don't seem truthful.

Secondly, why in the hell would you cold call a major prodco when you have an agent? 1) It's unnecessary, and 2) it steps majorly on your rep's toes. If this is true, I have a feeling your rep will be pretty annoyed about it. And also, I have huge doubts that you spoke to an exec. If anything, it was an assistant fielding calls. Execs don't take cold calls. Ever. Unless I am very much mistaken.

Thirdly, it seems very much as though English is not your first language, because (no offense) your posts don't seem to have a grasp of grammatical structure. If this is how you write, I don't see how it would be possible for you to get an agent. Writing in Hollywood means you have to know English well enough to string multiple sentences together coherently. If the above post is any indication of your scripts, it doesn't seem like you can. Unless you just happen to be drunk everytime you're on Done Deal.

And fourthly, in your first post you said you have been writing for three years. Less than a month later you stated you had been writing for four. Which is it?

To be frank, I think you're a troll.

Anyone who wants to yell at me for saying that, go ahead, but none of what this guy has said (in any of his posts) seems believable for my above reasons. Read his posts for yourself and perhaps you'll see what I do.

P.S. If you somehow did in fact get an agent, a manager, three offers from production companies to executive produce your Pilot, an interested TV network, an A-list actor attached, and interest from an exec at Bad Robot Productions on a cold call pitch related to none of what I just listed in this sentence...well, then good for you.

But I think you're lying.
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Old 01-12-2010, 01:47 AM   #3
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I don't know if I can believe this, to be honest, for several reasons...

First off, I just checked out the posts you've made, and most of them have been about how amazingly well you're doing, faintly wrapped in questions. For example, your first post was about how you have a script you and your partner wrote. You said you got repped from it, and immediately got offers from networks and then got an A-list actor attached to produce. Now, I can believe that, except you asked people on this board whether or not you should have the actor in meetings with you. This is something you would ask your agent and manager, I think, because they would know. Why would you register on a screenwriting forum to ask that when you have people on speed dial who would know? The way the post came off was quite bragadocious, really, and "oh, look at me". That's how every single one of them have been. If you are doing so well, why would your posts be just about how well you're doing? People don't just join forums to brag. As a result, they don't seem truthful.

Secondly, why in the hell would you cold call a major prodco when you have an agent? 1) It's unnecessary, and 2) it steps majorly on your rep's toes. If this is true, I have a feeling your rep will be pretty annoyed about it. And also, I have huge doubts that you spoke to an exec. If anything, it was an assistant fielding calls. Execs don't take cold calls. Ever. Unless I am very much mistaken.

Thirdly, it seems very much as though English is not your first language, because (no offense) your posts don't seem to have a grasp of grammatical structure. If this is how you write, I don't see how it would be possible for you to get an agent. Writing in Hollywood means you have to know English well enough to string multiple sentences together coherently. If the above post is any indication of your scripts, it doesn't seem like you can. Unless you just happen to be drunk everytime you're on Done Deal.

And fourthly, in your first post you said you have been writing for three years. Less than a month later you stated you had been writing for four. Which is it?

To be frank, I think you're a troll.

Anyone who wants to yell at me for saying that, go ahead, but none of what this guy has said (in any of his posts) seems believable for my above reasons. Read his posts for yourself and perhaps you'll see what I do.

P.S. If you somehow did in fact get an agent, a manager, three offers from production companies to executive produce your Pilot, an interested TV network, an A-list actor attached, and interest from an exec at Bad Robot Productions on a cold call pitch related to none of what I just listed in this sentence...well, then good for you.

But I think you're lying.
If he's not lying, coupled with your previously expressed love of JJ's work... this is gonna come across as one very, very envious post.

Maybe dude just had a few celebratory drinks after his awesome pitch!
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Old 01-12-2010, 02:25 AM   #4
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If he's not lying, coupled with your previously expressed love of JJ's work... this is gonna come across as one very, very envious post.
You could very well be right. But thank goodness I'm here to preemptively set the record straight! I actually don't get jealous. Or try incredibly hard not to. I have, in the past, but I realized it's a waste of time coveting someone else's success and being bitter about it. Instead, I be happy for them, and then work my ass off trying to get to their level. Example: My two best friends on this forum just got a manager. I really want a manager, but I'm also incredibly happy for them. I also know that my writing doesn't merit a manager yet, so it's pointless to be jealous about it.

Wait, why am I defending something that hasn't even happened yet? I'm 73% sure this OP won't even reply to his own thread.
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Old 01-12-2010, 04:12 AM   #5
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Studios, there's a good shot you're right, but I will say this:

On another forum, I once called B.S. on someone who was legitimately working on Judd Apatow's project. The project never got made and I think it's lost somewhere between Development Hell and the nearest Starbucks, but the truth is that the guy was a young writer who'd had an extremely lucky break. I wasn't jealous when I first called the guy out, but once I found out that he was for real I was red-faced with jealousy and a couple more emotions.
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Old 01-12-2010, 01:17 PM   #6
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Actually you are very wrong. I was sharing my story, which is completely true to encourage others. But now I will keep that info to myself. My only question to you studio is, you seem like a bitter writer who may have little to no personality. I do hope you are successful, but you may want to brush up on your people skills. People skills are a very important part of the business. Something you seem to be lacking.
Just because I didn't believe your story and rightfully called bull on it doesn't mean I don't have people skills -- it just means that I didn't believe your story.

I see also that you conveniently deleted the original content of your post, too, so that no one can see exactly what you wrote, or how incoherently written it was too. As a result, I will come off as an assholish harpy ragging on you for no reason because there is now no context through which to judge my post. I'm fine with that.

But the fact you deleted your post just convinced me even more.
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Old 01-12-2010, 07:03 PM   #7
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Just because I didn't believe your story and rightfully called bull on it doesn't mean I don't have people skills -- it just means that I didn't believe your story.

I see also that you conveniently deleted the original content of your post, too, so that no one can see exactly what you wrote, or how incoherently written it was too. As a result, I will come off as an assholish harpy ragging on you for no reason because there is now no context through which to judge my post. I'm fine with that.

But the fact you deleted your post just convinced me even more.
What did the post say?

Why delete it?
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Old 01-12-2010, 07:21 PM   #8
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The OP told a paragraph-long story about how he cold called Bad Robot yesterday and pitched a female executive his concept over the phone. He said she liked it so much that she asked for him to send over a one sheet of more information, and that while talking to her he never once mentioned that he was repped with an agent and manager. He then stated that he'd seen the recent JJ Abrams (he spelled it Abrahms) thread and wanted to share his success story with the board as encouragement.

The only way I could read the post was with a Babel fish firmly inserted into my ear canal. It was pretty difficult to decipher, like on the level of the worst comments found on YouTube. If it was written with attention to punctuation (he cut sentences in half with misplaced periods) or grammar (I seriously doubted his fluency in English, and therefore his ability to get repped) perhaps it would have seemed more plausible.

I don't know why he deleted the post. If I were him and actually wanted to offer encouragement, I would have told me to bugger off and left the post there anyway. Deleting it is a pretty passive aggressive move, and only suits to stir up more controversy -- which is exactly what a troll would want.

I should also mention that after deleted the original, the OP conveniently chose that time to go invisible, which seems pretty suspect to me.
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Old 01-12-2010, 08:02 PM   #9
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I saw someone made a thread about J.J. Abrahms, so I felt I shoudl share my story with you. Today I COLD CALLED BAD ROBOT about a project me and my writing partner have. I talked to Exec she was VERY INTRIGUED about idea, and wanted one sheet sent over TOMORROW. Now granted I am repped but i never mentioned that, and took the impulse of doing this myself. Now something may happen with this or not. But my point is one of the most sought after DIRECTOR in HOLLYWOOD, production company took a COLD PITCH from an unknown writer and liked my pitch enough to want to see what thsi project is about. This shows you, that you have to CREATE YOUR OWN luck. In this biz. The exec even thanked me for calling them. So just a little inspiration story from a guy who is just like you trying to make it, in this crazy world of Hollywood
Hi Deion,

I'm curious - why cold call when you have an agent and manager ? Were they annoyed that you did it ?

Let us know how it went.

Good luck !

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Old 01-12-2010, 08:56 PM   #10
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Personally, I don't find it hard AT ALL to believe that someone cold-called a production company and got their CE to read a script. Reading scripts is what they do.

You can get them to read a script off a cold email, and if you've got the cajones and skill to do actual phone calls, you'll get a lot more reads.
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