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Old 02-14-2018, 12:11 PM   #1
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let the sizzling WHITE hot takes commence . . .
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Old 02-14-2018, 01:56 PM   #2
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let the sizzling WHITE hot takes commence . . .
Well, given the lavish marketing campaign that Disney has devoted to it, it's a fair bet that, when the final numbers are tallied, the film will end up in the black.
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Old 02-14-2018, 03:01 PM   #3
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let the sizzling WHITE hot takes commence . . .
Have you seen it JoeB.? Thoughts? Real thoughts, not jokes.

I haven't seen it yet, not sure when I will get to. The trailer honestly doesn't look that good. Which is sad as I always thought this character was pretty interesting.

I am worried though that people will be afraid to say anything negative about it for fear of backlash because of the times. (and before anyone starts on me I just want you all to know I am a multi-race person who feels people can voice their opinions without getting "barked at" no matter what their opinion is)

The only "negative" review I have read said the overt tones are too overt and the cgi looks bad.

I did read that if any critic gives disney a bad review they are banned from any future disney premieres. There is a word for that.....
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Old 02-14-2018, 08:02 PM   #4
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I missed all the fireworks with the Get Out thread, but there's a strong possibility of lightning striking twice.

While I loved Chadwick Boseman's portrayal of T'Challa/Black Panther in Civil War, I'm probably a bigger Ryan Coogler fan. The guy has good instincts as a storyteller and collaborates with talented people on his projects. It's been fun watching him grow from Fruitvale Station, Creed, and now Black Panther.

Big budget superhero blockbusters with predominantly black casts don't happen every day, so there's gonna be a bit of excitement involved.

I've had more than my share of 'spirited discussions' on this board about how stories involving black people are perceived. Regardless of the subject matter or genre, if a trailer has too many black faces, it's a black-people-doing-black-people-things-in-a-black-way-I-won't-understand-movie. However, the same people have no problem watching black people play professional sports, sing, dance, and rap for hours. It's the weirdest thing ever.

If someone doesn't want to watch Black Panther because the story feels predictable and the cgi looks iffy in spots, which it does, fine. But don't tell me it doesn't look relatable when you have no problem accepting talking raccoons and humanoid trees in space. Is the Marvel brand big enough to encourage a few closed-minded folks to give the movie a chance? Probably.

I don't think anyone knows how this movie will perform domestically or internationally. The tracking is all over the place. So far so good in South Korea, where it had a better opening day than Doctor Strange, Thor Ragnarok, and Spider-man: Homecoming. It has the biggest opening day of 2018 in UK, and outgrossed opening days for Thor: Ragnarok and Deadpool.

The reviewers I trust say Black Panther a good to above average Marvel movie. It's probably not going to 'revolutionize the blockbuster' but it might inspire some 'same but different' projects. Hats off to the Disney/Marvel marketing team, but also the fans who've been supporting this movie like crazy on social media. It's comparable to fandoms that have been around for decades. I hope that translates into big box office.


Now if you'll excuse me, I have one of those 'same but different' scripts to finish.
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Old 02-14-2018, 08:31 PM   #5
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haven't seen it yet. the bad CGI in the clips i have seen did put me more on the fence (but mostly because all of these movies have bad CGI). that gripe aside, i will try and squeeze in a show at the Cinerama Dome this weekend if they're not all completely sold out (they probably are though).
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Old 02-15-2018, 05:06 AM   #6
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I think we live in an era where people tell you what to like or not to like under definitions that aren't really applicable. If Black Panther is a good movie then it's a good movie. I understand it's subjective and I also understand there are people who do not like what most people consider is good for their own reasons. But to be told "you HAVE to like this" because if you don't you are sexist, racist or something that distracts the fact the movie just might not be very good. I haven't seen the movie but I'm a fan of the character. I haven't seen Justice League either and growing up I liked those characters. After seeing Suicide Squad I'm a bit leery about superhero movies. I don't like big CGI third act films.

I grew up absolutely a fan of Luke Cage. So he has a show on Netflix. It gets tremendous reviews. I see it and in my opinion, and my opinion only, it's boring and awful. How do you not give a bullet proof superstrong hero a worthy villain in the marvel universe where everyone is a mutant? Yet, I'm bludgeoned into questioning my dislike for a poorly executed story by society only for people to admit months later it wasn't all that good.

Movies are a competitive market and they want a record breaking weekend by explaining to you that you have to see this and you have to like this because if you don't you have issues.
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Old 02-15-2018, 07:04 AM   #7
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Movies are a competitive market and they want a record breaking weekend by explaining to you that you have to see this and you have to like this because if you don't you have issues.
Precisely. "See it and like it, or you're a bad person."

Driving up the box office via guilt.

Giving Disney your money and your endorsement is now a moral imperative.

And concomitantly diving up the box office via communal intimidation as well: "Recommend it, or else."

"That's a new social-media reputation you have there. Shame if something were to happen to it."

An interesting two-pronged tactic. In today's cultural climate? Could work.
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Old 02-17-2018, 03:23 AM   #8
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I actually got a chance to see this one today. And what I am going to say next pretty much sums it up... The Lion King.

The story is basically the Lion King retold with some bad gumby style cgi.

Story wise, not too bad but it really is the lion king. Even the bad guy, who is the Scar character, is covered in scars!

The prince is feeling guilty about his father dying. The prince has a vision where he talks to his dead father just like Simba and Mufasa. The prince gets hurt and is believed to be dead and the bad guy takes his place. The queen and the girl the prince loves become outcasts.The prince has to get help from outside his tribe and retake his throne. And he kills the bad guy even though he didn't want to. He is even surrounded by all females just like a lion pride.

So if you liked The Lion King you will certainly enjoy Black Panther.

As far as the acting goes, everyone did pretty good. Michonne from the Walking Dead did well as did Lupita Nyongo. The main guy who plays T'challa was a little weak in my opinion. Needed a stronger main actor I thought.

The jokes were ok, some a little long in the tooth.

Missing a bunch of emotion though in the "emotional" parts.

I would give it an overall 6 and would say definitely see it at least once, especially if you like marvel stuff.
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Old 02-17-2018, 12:55 PM   #9
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Can we wait a while before getting into spoiler territory? Geez.
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Old 02-17-2018, 05:43 PM   #10
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Can we wait a while before getting into spoiler territory? Geez.
Ha, I always assume people are going to drop spoilers, so proceed with caution.

However, it took eight posts before someone had actually SEEN it
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