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Old 04-19-2007, 03:57 PM   #31
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One thing for sure, Hollywood always circles the wagons when something like this happens because they know they're going to get attacked in the media.

The irony of course being that the media and Hollywood are interchangable. Both entities are owned by the exact same corporate masters. CBS/Viacom/Paramout. Universal/NBC Disney/ABC Fox/Fox etc. etc. etc.

You know the drill.
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Old 04-19-2007, 03:57 PM   #32
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And I would be a raving lunatic.

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Old 04-19-2007, 03:59 PM   #33
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Not going to touch that one.

Nope.
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Old 04-19-2007, 05:22 PM   #34
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I think blaming it on the movies - blaming it on anything - is our way of trying to make some sense of insanity. We want the world to make sense so that we can make sure these things don't happen again.

They will happen again. There is no reason - no way to really solve the problem. There have always been crazy people. Always been cruel people. Always been violent people. They are a very very small portion of society.

Though today is kind of an odd day in history - Waco and Oklahoma City - most days nothing much happens. No crazed gunmen... just your usual crimes. People steal things. People kill friends and family that they've just had enough of. People die when they are in the wrong place at the wrong time. People get into car accidents. People die in war. Now, it may seem strange to say that those are just part of normal life - but they are. We flip on the news and there's a big car accident and someone has died and that's terrible... but we wait for the weather report. There are accidents every day where people die.

When the strange thing happens - be it a campus shooting or an armed religious cult or a lunatic with a truck full of explosives and a grudge against the government - we scramble to figure it all out. To find some reason behind the unreasonable.

There isn't any.

Instead of focusing on the crazy guy, we should be focusing on the victims. They should be the news story.

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Old 04-19-2007, 07:44 PM   #35
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He was clearly nuts. He'd been declared a danger to himself as a result of those prior stalking incidents, but was unfortunately only required to have out-patient therapy.

This tragedy has nothing to do with any movies he saw. It's about the system failing him and his victims. Or maybe it's only about the system being unable to fathom how deeply disturbed he was.
or maybe it's about Cho being a killer?

I've not been following this closely, seems he had depression and various allegations were made of minor-league stalking, but not prosecuted.

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"He found where she lived, started talking to her on AIM. Then he went over there.
"He was using the name Question Mark, and said, 'Hey, I'm Question Mark'. And that really freaked the girl out." The female student complained to university police but declined to press charges.
behaviour like this, depression, and a couple of screwed-up plays are enough to have him committed to an asylum? That may well have been justified in this case, but we only know that with the benefit of hindsight. What you are advocating (institutionalising kids for being depressed and harassing girls on AIM?) sounds quite precipitous, and I'm surprised to hear it from someone so concerned about personal freedoms and liberties.

I'm not sure people who have been diagnosed with severe depression should be allowed a firearms permit -- at least not until it is being properly managed.
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or maybe it's about Cho being a killer?
Gee, do you think that might be part of it?
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Gee, do you think that might be part of it?
I think it's the all of it.
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Old 04-19-2007, 08:28 PM   #38
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Hamboogul.

...okay, I'll give myself a

Yeah, knowing that Hamboogul's last name is KIM not CHO.
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Old 04-19-2007, 08:30 PM   #39
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There have always been crazy people. Always been cruel people. Always been violent people. They are a very very small portion of society.
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Nowadays they have better media coverage.
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Old 04-19-2007, 08:48 PM   #40
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Nowadays they have better media coverage.



Reminds me of the news report that quoted Governor George Maddox of Alabama in response to the question:

Governor, why do you think we're having so much trouble in our penitentiaries
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Governor Maddox: Well, Son, the problem is we need a better class of prisoners.



Seriously.
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