Re: SALT kicks ass (might be mild spoilers - though I tried not)
@terrance: the opinion that salt really works is shared by huge numbers of people at all levels. so maybe you can reject that one person who says i didn't believe your script, but when so many people believe a movie that lacks credibility at many levels you have few places to turn. i'm trying to say it's a growing systemic problem, not just an isolated case.
@superscribe: not talking about paid feedback. never used it. i'm talking about working on ideas with managers/producers. pitching to agents. submitting to readers at studios and prod cos, etc. i hear that stuff all the time. "seems too familiar" "reminds me of" "i didn't buy it when this happened." i haven't read the spec for salt, so i can't comment. i don't doubt you, though, if you say it's slick. but if studios want fresh and want different how does the ultra fresh salt--and you've passed on many so-so scripts-- end up as the cliched, pastiche so-so movie that we saw? does a studio really want a strong, unique voice or a box office success?
this might be two different subjects. a fresh spec with an interesting voice might break you in, so i can see where salt the spec may have accomplished that. but the final product lacks and what are the reasons for that? what can and should screenwriters take away from that?
good debate in any event.
@terrance: the opinion that salt really works is shared by huge numbers of people at all levels. so maybe you can reject that one person who says i didn't believe your script, but when so many people believe a movie that lacks credibility at many levels you have few places to turn. i'm trying to say it's a growing systemic problem, not just an isolated case.
@superscribe: not talking about paid feedback. never used it. i'm talking about working on ideas with managers/producers. pitching to agents. submitting to readers at studios and prod cos, etc. i hear that stuff all the time. "seems too familiar" "reminds me of" "i didn't buy it when this happened." i haven't read the spec for salt, so i can't comment. i don't doubt you, though, if you say it's slick. but if studios want fresh and want different how does the ultra fresh salt--and you've passed on many so-so scripts-- end up as the cliched, pastiche so-so movie that we saw? does a studio really want a strong, unique voice or a box office success?
this might be two different subjects. a fresh spec with an interesting voice might break you in, so i can see where salt the spec may have accomplished that. but the final product lacks and what are the reasons for that? what can and should screenwriters take away from that?
good debate in any event.
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