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Old 08-15-2019, 02:29 PM   #51
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Default Re: Doing well in too many contests is a red flag for reps?

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Yup...

Depends...

I've mentioned before that my buddy was top 10 in PAGE. Zilch. No one called him. Querying with that. Zero read requests.

It's harder than ever to get repped IMO.
I said "much harder" to resist, not impossible.
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Old 08-15-2019, 02:31 PM   #52
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But I know writers who have been signed off of lesser contests. Who are now on their second TV series. Hell, I was signed off of a "horsesh!t" contest. And I've made tens of thousands of dollars from them. And built relationships.

People love to say that "all that matters is Nicholl and Austin", but it's factually untrue, and it's weird how unwilling people are to adjust their thinking beyond that often parroted line.
This was my point, "Contest Winner" might get the query read, the logline will get the script read (or not) and the writing will get you signed (or not).
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Old 08-15-2019, 05:27 PM   #53
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But if you are one of those people who are good at writing scripts that readers respond to, and you can't make the jump from the top 350 to the top 50 in 10 years, you are like a career minor league baseball player.

Nothing wrong with that. It beats working in a hardware store, but you'll never be a pro.
It always strikes me as hilarious when non-pro writers lecture other non-pro writers about how they'll never be a pro writer.
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Old 08-15-2019, 05:49 PM   #54
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If you afford it, enter the big contests. Try the Black List. And also send query letters. And also network. Get a job in the business if you can. Pretty much the only guaranteed waste of time is trying to game out the correct path to breaking in, because there isn't one.
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Old 08-15-2019, 06:20 PM   #55
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Get a job in the business if you can.
Agreed.

IMO this is the absolute best way in (especially if the writer is young and can afford it. I could get political here but I'll save it). Be an intern, then an assistant. After a year or so you'll know a crap load of people who'll read your script... other assistants who may love it enough to give it to their boss. I know my ex would have read a script her assistant swore by, and I think it happens A LOT.

If a herd of assistants are buzzing about your script, higher ups will read it (jr Agents/Managers mostly, but so what, you want someone hungry) out of fear they'll miss out on the next best thing.

In fact, I wonder if they'd trust their assistant (who knows their taste) OVER a Nicholl place but non-win. Im'a say most likely.
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Old 08-15-2019, 06:43 PM   #56
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If you afford it, enter the big contests. Try the Black List. And also send query letters. And also network. Get a job in the business if you can. Pretty much the only guaranteed waste of time is trying to game out the correct path to breaking in, because there isn't one.

In your opinion, how high do you have to place in these major contests (that are not Nicholl) to realistically garner the attention of the top managers?
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Old 08-15-2019, 07:25 PM   #57
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You are cold as ice, lol....
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Old 08-15-2019, 07:49 PM   #58
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In your opinion, how high do you have to place in these major contests (that are not Nicholl) to realistically garner the attention of the top managers?
This is going to sound snarky, but it's not meant to:


Who are the "top managers"? I feel like that means something different to each of us, depending on what we want. But maybe I just ain't in the loop on that.
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Old 08-15-2019, 07:53 PM   #59
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This is going to sound snarky, but it's not meant to:


Who are the "top managers"? I feel like that means something different to each of us, depending on what we want. But maybe I just ain't in the loop on that.

I am sure there will be differing opinions on this, but the names that keep appearing on the different lists like Hit lists, Black list....the managers with the huge star rosters and land deals that you drool over.
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Old 08-15-2019, 08:57 PM   #60
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In your opinion, how high do you have to place in these major contests (that are not Nicholl) to realistically garner the attention of the top managers?
If you place top 25 in the Tracking Board all of their execs they have as judges are at least going to give your logline a glance. So have a great logline.
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