Re: What is the difference?
Centos, you're not a newbie. You're so caught up about dispelling "rules" that you want to ignore the obvious. My previous post was very clear about your question to me.
"Hollywood"
This means the industry. The professionals who work and thrive in this business, making films, TV shows, etc.: studio executives, producers, agents, managers, writers, etc.
"standard"
It means: "a level of quality or attainment." Synonyms: normal, typical, expected, etc.
"who defines it"
The professionals in the industry. I gave an example of one professional, Christopher Lockhart. He has worked in the industry for 20 years, looking for material over those years for clients, such as, Denzel Washington, Mel Gibson, Richard Gere, Steve Martin, Robert Downey Jr., Sharon Stone, etc.
Centos, I thought he would be a credible source to represent the industry about what major elements are expected to be included in an effective logline, but I guess in your eyes he's not, or you wouldn't have addressed the highlighted question to me.
A writer has free will. There are no "rules," where a writer must construct a logline a certain way. There is an expectation, a "Hollywood standard," on what makes an effective logline where it would entice an industry person to read/request the writer's script.
If a writer wants to ignore the minimum expectation of including the protagonist, goal and antagonist, or antagonist force (animal [shark], weather [tornado], setting [Cast Away], protagonist himself, etc.), the writer is certainly free to do so.
Centos, I hope by me admitting that there are no "rules" when it comes to constructing a logline this will satisfy you.
If a writer wants to send off a logline with only the high concept hook, or a logline with a setting and an antagonist force only, etc. the writer is free to do so, but according to industry people this isn't an effective way to represent the story, missing some key elements that make a logline strong.
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"Hollywood"
This means the industry. The professionals who work and thrive in this business, making films, TV shows, etc.: studio executives, producers, agents, managers, writers, etc.
"standard"
It means: "a level of quality or attainment." Synonyms: normal, typical, expected, etc.
"who defines it"
The professionals in the industry. I gave an example of one professional, Christopher Lockhart. He has worked in the industry for 20 years, looking for material over those years for clients, such as, Denzel Washington, Mel Gibson, Richard Gere, Steve Martin, Robert Downey Jr., Sharon Stone, etc.
Centos, I thought he would be a credible source to represent the industry about what major elements are expected to be included in an effective logline, but I guess in your eyes he's not, or you wouldn't have addressed the highlighted question to me.
A writer has free will. There are no "rules," where a writer must construct a logline a certain way. There is an expectation, a "Hollywood standard," on what makes an effective logline where it would entice an industry person to read/request the writer's script.
If a writer wants to ignore the minimum expectation of including the protagonist, goal and antagonist, or antagonist force (animal [shark], weather [tornado], setting [Cast Away], protagonist himself, etc.), the writer is certainly free to do so.
Centos, I hope by me admitting that there are no "rules" when it comes to constructing a logline this will satisfy you.
If a writer wants to send off a logline with only the high concept hook, or a logline with a setting and an antagonist force only, etc. the writer is free to do so, but according to industry people this isn't an effective way to represent the story, missing some key elements that make a logline strong.
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