Withoutabox?

[Braincramp]

Has anyone ever used this service? I am in the process of making a twelve minute short. I am looking for the most economical, yet effective way to get my material seen.
How many people here have decided to make a film based on their written material? At what point as a writer do you decide to go the extra length and make the film yourself?

[amandag]

Withoutabox is great, free and very efficient. I've used it for a few years.

[Braincramp]

Thanks Amandag, liked your trailer also.

[amandag]

Thanks Braincramp . Good luck!

[diego80]

I am considering signing up,

But I read this:

under Withoutabox general terms of service..


11. Proprietary rights, Use Rights and Limitations, Representations and Warranties,



You grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable, and fully sublicensable license right to use, copy, reproduce, transmit, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, and display any information, data, Work, or any other information associated with your Work (collectively the “Submitted Materials”) you submit to us via the Services in any media or format. You represent and warrant that (a) you own or otherwise control all of the rights to the Submitted Materials you submit to us, (b) such Submitted Materials are accurate, (c) our use of the Submitted Materials will not violate any terms of use in connection with the Website or Services or applicable laws, (d) the Submitted Materials will not cause injury to any person or entity, and (e) you will not provide any Submitted Materials to us that is defamatory, libelous, obscene or might otherwise be considered unlawful.


which I don't like very much..

what's your opinion about that?

[The7thLevel]

Almost every film festival uses Withoutabox as a means of submitting your film or screenplay. In most of them it's exclusively through Withoutabox. So you'll find quickly that you almost have no choice in the matter but to use them.

I've used them for years, for both film and screenplay submissions. It's fine, it's convenient, it's normal. Get used to Withoutabox if you plan on entering festivals.

[diego80]

and doesn't this clause bother you?

[The7thLevel]

Not really. Clauses like that are common for services whose sole purpose is to take your data and share it with third parties. It's literally what the service is meant to do. Take your data and share it with third parties in any manner or format that is necessary to fulfill the service they provide. It's fairly generic.

Again, I stress, it is THE tool for submitting to almost every film festival.

Side note, Amazon owns Withoutabox, just like they own IMDB. One of the services Withoutabox sometimes provides is allowing you to enter the film you were submitting to festivals into IMDB. And then somewhere along the way they also try to get you to put your film up for sale or rent at Amazon.

Take that any way you will, but just so you know who Withoutabox is and how big they are.

[ChristopherCurtis]

Originally Posted by diego80

and doesn't this clause bother you?

The Amazon Studios clause bothers me. We decided NOT to send our script there because once you submit, you are stuck with them and their payment structure. We have a high concept/marketable mainstream family Christmas comedy, so..soon as we finish this latest draft any day now, we plan to start submitting to the big ones, Amazon will not be one.

WOB, seems to be thee method for submissions, I think scriptapalooza uses and requires it.

[mistyritters]

Originally Posted by The7thLevel

Not really. Clauses like that are common for services whose sole purpose is to take your data and share it with third parties. It's literally what the service is meant to do. Take your data and share it with third parties in any manner or format that is necessary to fulfill the service they provide. It's fairly generic.

Again, I stress, it is THE tool for submitting to almost every film festival.

Side note, Amazon owns Withoutabox, just like they own IMDB. One of the services Withoutabox sometimes provides is allowing you to enter the film you were submitting to festivals into IMDB. And then somewhere along the way they also try to get you to put your film up for sale or rent at Amazon.

Take that any way you will, but just so you know who Withoutabox is and how big they are.

I've seen several contests recently that have an extended deadline for withoutabox submissions only.

But if you made the normal deadline, you didn't have to use withoutabox.

I think the clause they're using in their terms does deserve some attention.