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Old 02-08-2012, 02:24 PM   #21
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Dramatic Irony often creates suspense.

For example, in Romeo and Juliet the Baz Luhrmann version:

While Romeo prepares to drink the poison, Juliet stirs. Romeo doesn't see this because he's looking up, so we as the audience shout at him to look down because we know she's alive. Dramatic Irony. There is a lot of suspense in the moment as we wait to see if he'll notice her moving.

On the other hand, in I Am Legend:

There's a scene where Will Smith's character searches for his dog. We don't know where his dog is, or what's around the corner, but we know that it's dark and scary. We see blood - is it his dog's blood? We don't know, but we hope not. We wait to see, on the edge of our seat, waiting to find out if the dog is dead. Not Dramatic Irony because we don't know what's around the corner, but plenty of suspense.
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Old 02-08-2012, 02:35 PM   #22
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I agree with what's been said. To me, dramatic irony is the disparity between what the audience knows and the character knows.

The disparity doesn't have to be immediately obvious like the ticking bomb example.

An additional example would be in CASTAWAY when Tom Hanks says to his wife, "I'll be back soon," even though we know that he's going to end up stranded on a tropical island.
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Old 02-08-2012, 03:00 PM   #23
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Everybody is waiting for me to say something stupid, not knowing I'm the only one who gets it.
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Old 02-08-2012, 04:38 PM   #24
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Dramatic Irony often creates suspense.

For example, in Romeo and Juliet the Baz Luhrmann version:

While Romeo prepares to drink the poison, Juliet stirs. Romeo doesn't see this because he's looking up, so we as the audience shout at him to look down because we know she's alive. Dramatic Irony. There is a lot of suspense in the moment as we wait to see if he'll notice her moving.

On the other hand, in I Am Legend:

There's a scene where Will Smith's character searches for his dog. We don't know where his dog is, or what's around the corner, but we know that it's dark and scary. We see blood - is it his dog's blood? We don't know, but we hope not. We wait to see, on the edge of our seat, waiting to find out if the dog is dead. Not Dramatic Irony because we don't know what's around the corner, but plenty of suspense.
Nice examples. Dramatic irony is a literary device we can use to create suspense. (And we may use dramatic irony to create other feelings in the audience)

In your second example, suspense is created by another technique.
Does that technique have a literary name?
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:21 AM   #25
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Nice examples. Dramatic irony is a literary device we can use to create suspense. (And we may use dramatic irony to create other feelings in the audience)

In your second example, suspense is created by another technique.
Does that technique have a literary name?
i haven't seen the film in awhile, but if i recall right, the dog comes bounding out of the darkness all happy and okay...? i believe that's situational irony. it's the difference between what we believed would happen and the result of what did happen.
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:06 AM   #26
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No, that's not really situational irony either. I think it's just a scene.
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Old 02-09-2012, 10:21 AM   #27
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thank you for the head's up. in literary works it's that period of disparate time when you've been led to believe one thing but then another thing happens... a reversal leading to situational irony. so how does it work with visual works?
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Old 02-09-2012, 10:45 AM   #28
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My understanding of situational irony is just that: when result doesn't meet intention.

An example might be a guy introducing a girl he fancies to a buddy and hopes the buddy will talk him up as he gets the drinks. But when he returns, he finds the girl kissing the buddy.
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Old 02-09-2012, 11:28 AM   #29
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thanks! it sounds similar to literary but i might not have chosen a good sample in my earlier post...

so, it seems like the difference between situational irony and dramatic irony is the writer's intent...? in dramatic irony the writer tells the truth to the audience (shows them a bomb under the table); but, in situational irony, the writer tells the truth but then the truth is reversed to be a lie (shows them a bomb but then reveals it's a dud)...?

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Old 02-09-2012, 01:10 PM   #30
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You guys are WAY overthinking this.

If we know there's a bomb under the table but the characters don't, it's dramatic irony. If they know there's a bomb, it's not dramatic irony.
I disagree: that's just suspense. But I may be wrong.
You are wrong.

ANYTHING the audience knows that the character in the story does not know = dramatic irony.
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