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Old 09-14-2004, 12:55 AM   #1
wiffleballfresno
 
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Default Should Charlie Kaufman Be Pissed?

The Orchid THIEF

In what shouldn’t be surprising news to me, but still is, the movie “Anacondas: The Hunt for the Blood Orchid” is still in the top ten at the box office and has made twenty four million and counting. I think that screenwriter Charlie Kaufman (he wrote the screenplay for the movie Adaptation) must be chuckling somewhere at this.

I'm sure most have seen Adaptation but just in case, here is the scene that shows why Kaufman might be laughing.

VALERIE
So, tell me your thoughts on this
crazy little project of ours.

In one motion, Kaufman swabs his forehead and pulls a book
entitled The Orchid Thief from his bag.

KAUFMAN
First, I think it's a great book.

VALERIE
Laroche is a fun character, isn't he?

Kaufman nods, flips through the book, stalling. A photo of
author Susan Orlean smiles from the inside back cover.

KAUFMAN
Absolutely. And Orlean makes orchids so
fascinating. Plus her musings on
Florida, orchid poaching. Indians.
Great, sprawling New Yorker stuff. I'd
want to remain true to that, let the
movie exist rather than be artificially
plot driven.

VALERIE
Okay, great, great. I guess I'm not
exactly sure what that means.

KAUFMAN
Oh. Well... I like to let my work
evolve, so I'd want to go into it with
sort of open-ended kind of... and also
not force it into a typical movie form.

VALERIE
Oh. That sounds interesting... what
you're saying. I mean, I'm intrigued.

KAUFMAN
(blurting)
It's just, I don't want to ruin it by
making it a Hollywood product. Like, an
orchid heist movie or something.
Or changing the orchids into poppies and
turning it into a movie about drug
running. Y'know? Why can't there be a
movie simply about flowers? That's all.

VALERIE
That's what we're thinking. Definitely.

KAUFMAN
Like, I don't want to cram in sex, or car
chases, or guns. Or characters learning
profound life lessons. Or growing or
coming to like each other or overcoming
obstacles to succeed in the end. Y'know?
The book isn't like that. Life isn't
like that. It just isn't. I feel very
strongly about this.


Okay, if you haven’t figured out where I am going with this story here is the description for the movie Anacondas: The Hunt for the BLOOD ORCHID.

A scientific expedition is sent to the jungles of Borneo to search for a rare black orchid by a powerful pharmaceutical company that hopes the orchid can be used to unlock the secrets of youth and immortality. What they discover is that the orchid is already being used by a powerful group... a swarm of giant snakes that derive their super strength, size and vitality from the flowers, and extremely large snakes are also extremely hungry snakes...



Now I am sure Charlie Kaufman just laughs this off or just thinks it's a living example of what his character "Charlie" was fighting not to write.
But I bet if his “brother” Donald was alive, he would think Anacondas was a great script.
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Old 09-14-2004, 01:10 AM   #2
Unca Leo
 
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That is supposed to be similar?
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Old 09-14-2004, 01:18 AM   #3
Evil Elf the One and Only
 
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Orchids are trendy right now, and have been for a few years. That's one reason The Orchid Thief was published in the first place, and why every dentist's office and day spa has some hanging around. That more than one movie would pick up on this is absolutely unsurprising. Charlie Kaufman should no more be pissed than should the people who actually GO up the Amazon or wherever looking for orchids. Now, the people who paid full price to see Anacondas...they should be pissed.

It's No "In The Valley Of Gwanjii"
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Old 09-14-2004, 08:41 PM   #4
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Quote:
That is supposed to be similar?
umm YeAAA it's supposed to be similar:

KAUFMAN
It's just, I don't want to ruin it by
making it a Hollywood product. Like, an
orchid heist movie or something.
Or changing the orchids into poppies and
turning it into a movie about drug
running. Y'know? Why can't there be a
movie simply about flowers? That's all.

-Then a couple years later a movie comes out about GIANT SNAKES EATING ORCHIDS. If that isn't making a Hollywood Product out of Orchids, I don't know what is.
I'm just saying it's kind of funny. I'm not saying it's surprising or terrible...well OK, it's terrible but not a big deal.
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Old 09-15-2004, 11:17 AM   #5
MacG
 
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Uh.... :rolleyes
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Old 09-15-2004, 08:39 PM   #6
JakeSchuster aka Ostroff
 
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...huh? >D
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Old 09-15-2004, 09:31 PM   #7
XL
 
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You're right wiffle... I totally agree... I mean, it's a disgra-

...wait...

What? :\
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Old 09-16-2004, 02:47 AM   #8
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I think Wiffle is observing that "Anacondas" embodies the kind of movie Charlie Kaufman rails on in "Adaptation."

I agree, that is pretty flippin' funny.
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Old 09-16-2004, 10:27 AM   #9
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Okay. I get it now.

Wait.

No, I get it.

But...

No, okay.

I think.

Huh?
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Old 09-16-2004, 06:26 PM   #10
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Quote:
I think Wiffle is observing that "Anacondas" embodies the kind of movie Charlie Kaufman rails on in "Adaptation."
Thanks N.T. AssClown. That's all I was trying to get at. By reading the other reply's, I guess I failed at pointing that out clearly.

Apparently I stink and I will now go back to the hole from which I came, never to write another lame post again.
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