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  • Hey, kid

    Been a long time since I've been in the depth of a screenplay rewrite. Fun!

    I never know for sure, but what do you do when you're doing direct address, but it's not a name, but "kid" "lady"

    So if it's

    Hey, Barry. Barry is 5.

    Hey, kid.

    Hey, Kid.

    I think Kid is supposed to be capitalized, but it looks better on paper to me as lowercase kid.

    I don't think it matters much, but if you were writing it properly which way should I go, Kids?

    There's like 5 or 6 of these screenwriting things that I feel everyone does differently when I read screenplays.

    O.K. or okay. I have to write out okay myself.

    I made money and I'm still asking basic questions! You're never too stupid (I mean old) to learn.

  • #2
    Re: Hey, kid

    Originally posted by Bono View Post
    Been a long time since I've been in the depth of a screenplay rewrite. Fun!

    I never know for sure, but what do you do when you're doing direct address, but it's not a name, but "kid" "lady"

    So if it's

    Hey, Barry. Barry is 5.

    Hey, kid.

    Hey, Kid.

    I think Kid is supposed to be capitalized, but it looks better on paper to me as lowercase kid.

    I don't think it matters much, but if you were writing it properly which way should I go, Kids?

    There's like 5 or 6 of these screenwriting things that I feel everyone does differently when I read screenplays.

    O.K. or okay. I have to write out okay myself.

    I made money and I'm still asking basic questions! You're never too stupid (I mean old) to learn.
    the rule is if the "word" or nickname replaces a real name then it's capped. so...

    "Mom, stop acting like that. Tell her, Dad."

    if it's not specific then it's not capped, "As we always say, mom and dads are welcome."

    "I will only say this once more, children get back to your seats."

    those are grammar rules for proper writing.

    if the KIDS or CHILDREN or the MOB, have been introduced in a screenplay as "characters" their first letter is always capped because they are literally "characters." So, this way...

    It wasn't until the Kids captured the Children that the Mob began their killing spree. (screenplay purposes).

    if you say... We see two CHILDREN approach the sidelines. they would not be first initial capped once you then proceed to NAME them.
    "Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist,- Pablo Picasso

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    • #3
      Re: Hey, kid

      What if you have a character addressing a baby goat?


      Hey! You might do it in your house, but in this house we don't lick our butts. -- Mother Teresa

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      • #4
        Re: Hey, kid

        Originally posted by Mark Somers View Post
        What if you have a character addressing a baby goat?
        is the baby goat a character? meaning, will any goat do or will you require a trained one? if it's a trained one, i'd say, BABY GOAT on intro, then Baby Goat if it's referred to from there on out. but if it's a bunch of goats, then just GOATS at the intro then goats there after.

        "Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist,- Pablo Picasso

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        • #5
          Re: Hey, kid

          I wouldn't capitalize it. Makes it look like that's his name.

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          • #6
            Re: Hey, kid

            Originally posted by Rantanplan View Post
            I wouldn't capitalize it. Makes it look like that's his name.
            I agree. It may technically be the "right way" to do it but it would make the script a pain to read.

            Code:
                JOHN and JOE are sitting in the ship's mess, staring at the
                dark, empty space through the porthole.
                
                                      JOE
                          Empty out there.
                
                                      JOHN
                          Yep.
                
                                      JOE
                          Kind of creepy.
                
                                      JOHN
                          Yep.
                
                And then a ZAP...
                
                Shimmering light as a GOAT materializes beside the table.
                
                                      JOE
                          Aw, crap, not again.
                
                                      JOHN
                                 (murmuring)
                          Yep.
                
                The goat grabs John's cap with his teeth and starts chewing.
                
                John doesn't notice.
                
                                      JOE
                          Get the hell out of here, goat!
                
                                      JOHN
                          Yep.
             
               The goat shimmers and disappears.
                
                                      JOE
                          Goats in the works.
                
                                      JOHN
                          Yep.
            Now, if Goat was a name...

            Code:
                JOHN and JOE are sitting in the ship's mess, staring at the
                dark, empty space through the porthole.
                
                                      JOE
                          Empty out there.
                
                                      JOHN
                          Yep.
                
                                      JOE
                          Kind of creepy.
                
                                      JOHN
                          Yep.
                
                A small BULL TERRIER bounds in. Sits at Joe's feet.
                
                                      JOE
                          That's my dog. I named him Goat.
                                (pause)
                          Goat, say hi to John.
                
                Goat clears his throat.
                
                                      GOAT
                          Pleased to meet you, John.
                
                                      JOHN
                                 (unaware)
                          Yep.
                
                After a moment...
                
                Joe shakes his head at John as Goat licks his own bum.
            STANDARD DISCLAIMER: I'm a wannabe, take whatever I write with a huge grain of salt.

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            • #7
              Re: Hey, kid

              THE WACO KID
              Then one day, I was just walking
              down the street when I heard a
              voice behind me say, "Reach for
              it, mister!" I spun around... and
              there I was, face to face with a
              six-year old kid. Well, I just
              threw my guns down and walked
              away. Little bastard shot me in
              the ass.
              Check out the DDP Logline Throwdown thread in Writing Exercises forum

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              • #8
                Re: Hey, kid

                most important thing is having it all capped to start, i think.

                then, whatever you do, be consistent. i'm not sure it matters that much. i'm learning more about breaking down a scene like a line producer might, in order to understand how to control budget considerations. so if you have to have a special GOAT it might matter... not sure, tho.
                "Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist,- Pablo Picasso

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                • #9
                  Re: Hey, kid

                  Confession: I skipped the other replies.

                  DIRECT ADDRESS

                  Short answer: Use the comma, as in *Hey, kid*.

                  Long answer: Sometimes, especially in screenwriting, these expletives like *Hey* are joined to the following name without a comma because there is little or no pause between the expletive and the name. However, I recommend using the comma. The comma has a significance besides signalling a pause.

                  CAPITALIZATION

                  Do not capitalize *kid* unless it is a name (maybe they always call him *Kid*, and would introduce him to others as *Kid*).

                  As always, some tough instances can arise. For example:

                  What do you do when are talking to a mayor and you want to call him *mister*?

                  Best way: What do you think, *Mr. Mayor*?

                  *Mayor* is not his name, but it is used as such here.

                  But, when talking to a policeman, these are both correct:

                  Correct: Good to see you again, *Officer Smith*.

                  Correct: I did not know I was speeding, *officer*.

                  Have a grammatically and stylistically correct day!

                  "The fact that you have seen professionals write poorly is no reason for you to imitate them." - ComicBent.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Hey, kid

                    Originally posted by Bono View Post
                    I made money and I'm still asking basic questions! You're never too stupid (I mean old) to learn.

                    Looks like this is going to be one of those things that's wrong, no matter how you do it.
                    "I just couldn't live in a world without me."

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                    • #11
                      Re: Hey, kid > Okay

                      I forgot the *OK/Okay* issue. Sorry.

                      Both forms are considered correct. I always use *okay* except for selections in computer programs. I regard *OK* as an abbreviation, and I do not like abbreviations for words. The problem with this word is that nobody knows where it came from. Nobody knows - I have done the research. It was not used before the 1800s, and it started in America. I think that the "orl korrekt" theory is total bullsheet.

                      Unfortunately *OK/Okay* has infected the whole world. Everybody says it now. People write screenplays in which medieval Englishmen or colonial Americans say *OK/Okay*. It drives me crazy.

                      "The fact that you have seen professionals write poorly is no reason for you to imitate them." - ComicBent.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Hey, kid

                        Originally posted by StoryWriter View Post
                        Looks like this is going to be one of those things that's wrong, no matter how you do it.
                        I just do it how I do it, and fukk anyone who says I did it wrong. Ya know? I mean, seriously, when I’m reading I super don’t care. Make a stylistic choice and stick with it. If you do something weird, like I flip the page and the only word on the page is...

                        “DEAD”

                        Fukkin rad bro! Balls. What else is this writer gonna do? Personally I’d be like “dude that’s fukkin RAD! Way to surprise me!” So long as the writing lives up to the tricks.

                        Point: I’m easily bored. Take some risks please! IMO
                        Bruh, fukkin *smooches*! Feel me? Ha!

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                        • #13
                          Re: Hey, kid

                          see, i'm not alone. I don't think it matters, just what you like.

                          I was writing a lot of

                          Hey, Kid

                          Hey, Lady

                          And I want to write

                          Hey, kid

                          Hey, lady

                          In courier it looks cooler! It's not important at all.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Hey, kid > Okay

                            Many thanks to ComicBent for another good lesson in proper writing which I’m always sure I need, thus I read, and then I heed.

                            Originally posted by ComicBent View Post
                            Confession: I skipped the other replies.

                            DIRECT ADDRESS

                            Short answer: Use the comma, as in *Hey, kid*.

                            Long answer: Sometimes, especially in screenwriting, these expletives like *Hey* are joined to the following name without a comma because there is little or no pause between the expletive and the name. However, I recommend using the comma. The comma has a significance besides signalling a pause.

                            CAPITALIZATION

                            Do not capitalize *kid* unless it is a name (maybe they always call him *Kid*, and would introduce him to others as *Kid*).

                            As always, some tough instances can arise. For example:

                            What do you do when are talking to a mayor and you want to call him *mister*?

                            Best way: What do you think, *Mr. Mayor*?

                            *Mayor* is not his name, but it is used as such here.

                            But, when talking to a policeman, these are both correct:

                            Correct: Good to see you again, *Officer Smith*.

                            Correct: I did not know I was speeding, *officer*.

                            Have a grammatically and stylistically correct day!
                            Originally posted by ComicBent View Post
                            I forgot the *OK/Okay* issue. Sorry.

                            Both forms are considered correct. I always use *okay* except for selections in computer programs. I regard *OK* as an abbreviation, and I do not like abbreviations for words. The problem with this word is that nobody knows where it came from. Nobody knows — I have done the research. It was not used before the 1800s, and it started in America. I think that the "orl korrekt" theory is total bullsheet.

                            Unfortunately *OK/Okay* has infected the whole world. Everybody says it now. People write screenplays in which medieval Englishmen or colonial Americans say *OK/Okay*. It drives me crazy.
                            "Go to the edge of the cliff and jump off. Build your wings on the way down.- - Ray Bradbury

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                            • #15
                              Re: Hey, kid

                              Thank you, TigerFang.

                              But as you can see from the other replies, most people do not care and become flippant and dismissive when someone actually answers the questions about these matters.

                              Happy writing, everyone.



                              "The fact that you have seen professionals write poorly is no reason for you to imitate them." - ComicBent.

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