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  • hang em high
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    Re: Don - it's early!

    Yes, I have a brother and he does write logically and coherently, it seems he thinks before he writes, and possible edits, I, on the other hand write as if someone is chasing me with a chainsaw.

    SHAVING WRINKLES. . . getting mixed reviews on the name as well, but if you real get into the story then it applies.

    But the name might have to be changed

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  • PteranoDon
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    Re: Don - it's early!

    Yeah! I forgot to dis the title, too. I couldn't come up with anything better. "Dominic Go Friskem" kept coming to mind (that's from an old Catholic joke in case you never heard it).

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  • steeves
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    Don - it's early!

    only 1130am out here in this neck of the desert

    thanks for your take on dom/benny/whoever

    i think his script has merit - forgot to tell him i don't much like the title - but i found it hard to get into - needs polish and i would like to see it again after he does some work... but then again, other than knowing what i like what do i know?

    cheers

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  • PteranoDon
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    Re: by the way, Don

    Steeves, you're up late.

    Hang em? Well, yep he's Sonny Liston and Dominic Riggio, but not Benny Deltone. I've read his script and it's a good one; it's gonna get bought. He seems to have a twin though I've never seen the two of them together (actually, I've never seen either one of them). His brother writes coherently and logically so that he is either a separate person from Hang or Hang is real good at getting into character.

    Hope this was helpful.

    [email protected]

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  • steeves
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    by the way, Don

    can you verify hang'em's claims?

    just curious

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  • PteranoDon
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    Suspenders 'n briefs

    I mean suspension of belief; gotta watch my spelling.

    Audiences suspend belief the way a 3 year old flies: she runs as fast as she can, she waves her little arms, she gives a little hop and.....FLIES FOR A WHOLE HALF SECOND!!!

    You can ask audiences to suspend belief a little bit, but don't ask them to make a suspension bridge out of it.

    "Legend" is a good example of the genre gone wrong; one damn fantasy after another until you need a map and program to follow it all. By that point, nobody cared anymore.

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  • jpsinger
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    Just write it

    Daughter of Lir,

    Write what you want. If you can write well, producers will want you to write their ideas. You can basically forget about selling a spec script. Spec scripts from unsold writers account for about 3% of all movie sales.

    So go with your strength and write a strong character piece which displays your chops. It's like the old actor's motto - always choose a monologue that lets you cry and scream.

    Of course, since you're probably Vampyre, this is all meaningless.

    By the way, the big change in AMERICAN BEAUTY wasn't the killer. It was whether or not Lester has sex with the Mena Suarvi character. In the original script, he banged her. Fortunately, Walter Parkes decided otherwise. See kids, producers aren't all bad.

    jps

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  • Daughter of Lir
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    Re: Supernatural/spooky stuff....

    Ah, Kosk-kin think how amusing it'll be to have the longest toon at Spike & Mike's....

    Signs and portents and supernat'ral stuff, o my! <toasting Ksk with ale>

    Yeah, as I was doing some more writing on ye auld script (involving the Sea and supernatural things and such in S.F.) I read that they just fished a body out o' San Fran Bay... Scooby Doo says "arrrhoooOOOO?" Shivery bits.

    Watched "Secret of Roan Inish" again today. Yet another example of what I meant by modern fantasy... absolute lovely gem of a movie...

    And back I go to my fountain pen, Guinness and Altan cd...

    Slainte!

    Nighean an Lir,
    Bhean-Eala...

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  • ksk2
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    Re: Bill Martell - still the level headed

    That's not a true apology, Hang. And possibly might start another ruckus. Simply saying "Sorry I (---) without a qualifier goes farther and rides better. Which is the difference between a Selica and a Hemi Cuda.

    And I replied to your other question too.

    No problems with you, just speaking my peace, kosk

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  • hang em high
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    Bill Martell - still the level headed

    pseudo peace maker, with the ohh so very seductive comments toward the IDIOT, who keeps on pushing the wrong buttons.

    My hats off to ya bill and that comment about the hack, way back when, was out of line.

    That was a low blow, I have actually read three fourths of your scripts, at least the one's I can get my hands on and calling you a hack was, well in bad taste.

    Still think I'm better though.

    DR.

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  • ksk2
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    Supernatural/spooky stuff....

    well, this thread (for me, today) has just dovetailed with the previous one on Signs and Portents.

    After enjoying this thread last night, I wake up to an e-mail from the guy I'm doing the toon-short for. He was discussing the project last night with a colleague. They were laughing their asses off over the satires/lampoons/jokes. One of the lines was funny enough that they want me to add ANOTHER scene. (I swear to god that if they don't cut this sh!t out, we're gonna end up with a 22 minute pilot rather than a short; NOT my initial intent or plan). But why is this relevant to the thread?

    The scene takes place in the Foyer to Hell. The line that leads to the addition comes from the Demon who is the Major Domo that inducts Ne'r-do-wells to their just-desserts. Does this sound funny as I post this? No. But it's described as hysterical by those who've read the piece. Even though it takes place in The Inferno. But it's not Dante's. I modernized it. Not like S Park, but... Some folks are already laying bets that it'll eat Spike and Mike's alive. Even though it deals with some of the oldest mythological elements around.

    So, as usual, context is everything, regardless of genre.

    Guess I better go and design that new scene now...

    Salud, kosak

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  • hang em high
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    Re: Supernatural movies.... and slang... and...

    Don't worry about it, you just opened some old stuff up, started by me. I felt the need to be childish and become others so I have tainted the board for the newbies, don't bother with apologizing.

    Steeves, and whom ever else, I WILL NOT SCREW AROUND WITH OTHER NAMES, any more.

    And who cares how many names you use LIR,

    use I KILLED SHAKESPEARE, if you want. The posts are the same either way, man - who cares, people are starving, with flies all over the place in third world countries, and they get bitten eighty times an hour and eat quaker oates for breakfast lunch and dinner and have no clue what ESPN is or how soft SALEM HAYEK's skin must be after she takes a shower.

    DOMINIC - HANG EM, - SONNY, JO - BLOW and who ever else.

    It's all about writing creating and having fun with the English language.

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  • Daughter of Lir
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    Re: Supernatural movies.... and slang... and...

    <laughing> Whoo-HOO! Lots of replies! Fun, fun!

    Okay, just a brief word on slang: I apologize, I didnt say what I meant correctly. I dont mean that I plan on using slang and bad grammar on a daily business or whatnot, just that in my quick typing I am NOT gonna worry about if my "dont" has an apostrophe -- I reckon y'all can figure it out. And yes, one should strive for proper spelling/grammar, I just dont want to get hammered if I am being "cute" in my typing on purpose... oh, botheration, I shall endeavor NOT to "go there", and this is a silly side topic. <grin> I'll be good. 'Nuff said.

    On Kosk: <grin> <waving> Funny that THAT was who you were talking about, Lilibet. <snicker> We 've been accused before of posting too similarly. Rest assured I am NOT he! <laughing>

    On Slainte: We're both Irish in descent, funny enough. We both speak a smattering of Gaelic, believe it or not. We both happen to like the lore/legends/mythos of Ireland (and Scotland, for me). And as Koskie says "alternative form o' greeting/cheers from folks not necessarily US/Canadian"... damn Celtic kids, popping up everywhere...

    On fantasy in film: Again, I was unclear. (damn overexcited posting, bad Swan, bad!) I did not mean High Fantasy, ie: Tolkien, McCaffrey, although I will look forward to seeing both o'them. Wasnt about to run out and write a "D & D critters fantasy" <shudder> I meant, "modern fantasy/supernatural thriller", and actually my questions have been answered quite neatly. <grin> Thanks to Girl In Grey for the nice concise answer. VERY appreciated. Ditto to Mr Martell. And thanks for all the other feedback, folks. It is mucho appreciated. I'm actually feeling like I'm getting a handle on this... And actually, once I read your posts, it was a silly question for me to ask considering the success of recent films with supernatural-ooh-spooky themes... But thanks!!

    Oh, and Steev-O: I dont play the "alternate persona" games on boards. My time is too bloody valuable to waste on childish crap that serves no purpose. So thanks for the "support" on whether or not you "take me seriously"... Isn't that a little rude to a new person, whom you don't know at all? I believe its "innocent until proven guilty"? Believe me, my work is as valid as any other person posting here, and I shouldn't be "punished" for past folks' foibles. Not trying to preach or pick a fight with you, sir, just asking that mayhap you can suspend belief or impressions until you've actually "seen" more of me? Thanks for input, though.
    I understand that previously KsK has been accused of being "falsely supportive and 'sweet'." Nope, not so. And I am the same way: I'll be supportive of folks and thank them for their opinions no matter HOW they differ from mine. Everyone is entitled to one, no? And everyone has something valuable to say in one way or another -- just kinda hard to pick it out sometimes...

    Abject apologies, all, for the length of this post.

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  • Cornell
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    Supernatural movies....

    Please, please...puhleeeze, can we all just get along? I haven't even had my coffee yet, but then, maybe I'll just go for a beer. How 'bout them Reds! Imagine if we were all stuck on an island together?

    Daughter of Lir's original question was (not verbatim): Do we feel like fairy tales/spiritual movies are "in" today? I say yes. If a story allows you to escape to the outer realm of your usual thinking, even if only for a couple of hours, and gives you a indentifiable connection in which to base your spiritual/religious/theoretical beliefs on, then yes, these are the kinds of movies that people will pay money to see. These type movies "speak" to us and allow us to frolic within the confines of own minds and presents the identifying elements desired to enhance the possibility of our own individual beliefs being true. While many of these type movies haven't been blockbusters, studios certainly haven't lost money on them either. Oh well, I could go on, but I won't.

    Thank you very much. Now, I'm going to get my coffee and an apple.

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  • hang em high
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    STEEVS you are starting to irratate me

    you can make any comment on my script you feel is subjective to what you read. I have no fears with
    you, or anyone else.

    Again, let's get this straight, I have a twin brother he's in boston I am some where else. I am, Dominic, Sonny, Larry and hang em. He used my e - mail to log on as Benny Deltone, cause that is one of the characters in one of our scripts.

    my E MAIL is BENNYDELTONE, he used that name to log on at DONE DEAL. I wondered why he was not writing as much, so, when I went to Boston I found out that he was writing on a message board. So I logged on as Dominic to blast Benny, because he was not writing. When you write on this board it takes away from the actually time you write.

    Then when Dominic could not tear himself from this board, Benny, my brother decided to get me tossed so I would resume normal writing, as in our scripts.

    What part do you not understand. Remember Dominic's first post why don't people write more on their scripts, and why do people give away ideas? I'm sure you do remember.

    Ask Kosk he knows, or Ptrano Don or Gore who has known my brother for six years.

    Our email correspondence was supposed to be between us, not the script, say anything you want.

    I stated who I am in those emails. As to do with your comment on evaluation, well I majored in pysc. in college and my mother has a masters in that particular field, and i wonder if you are qualified to evaluate?

    You wanted to read the script, know you are belly aching about nonsense. Give lilybet a chance to be bitchy read the script and make any kind of comments you'd like, please I look forward to your insight.

    And for the last time, BENNY DELTONE, is my brother. He is a legitmate person, I on the other hand am a jokster who looks for fun and amusement, and have not logged as another name in months, and the only reason I kept on logging on as others is because I kept on getting tossed.

    Amaze me steeves and give some insight and stop being paranoid, give lilybet some validation that I can't write, come on, do it steeves, do it. And if their are spelling errors I'd like to know them, because that would help.

    hang em'

    and by the way, anytime I logged on as someone else I emailed Ptrano to tell him, he asked me for that and kosk knows who my alter egos are. And, I promised Done deal that I would stick to one name, okay, and I will. I will stick to hangem because you all know that it is Dominic.

    I am Dominic Riggio, that's who I am.

    ohh, and PS, if I ever become who I aim to be, you will have a connection not an enemy. I attached you first, from my very first post, you have only tried to stem the tide of nonsense. Why would that effect anything if someday, I'm a success and you are hoping for a break. Black balling is not my skin. A good script is a good script even if it is written by SATAN himself.

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