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    Richmond Weems
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    Re: Fatal Flaw?

    Originally posted by NikeeGoddess View Post
    umm - you just said the film was ruined and you suggest people go see it?! aren't we sure that it was only switched b/c travolta wanted to be the lead... and he had the name?
    What?? It's amazing that one post can be so right and so wrong at the same time.

    I haven't read any of the previous threads, and I'm not even sure what the topic of this thread is about, but even I understood what Bill was saying.

    HH

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  • NikeeGoddess
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    Re: Fatal Flaw?

    Originally posted by wcmartell View Post
    At the script stage on PIRATES the chick was the protagonist and all three of the men were equals. After casting, that changed.

    Casting can change the intent of a story. I have a Script Tip on the movie BASIC - the script had a female lead with a male secondary character who helps her. They cast Travolta as the secondary character and Connie Neilson as the lead... and that turned Travolta into the lead... except his character can not be the lead if the story is going to work. She didn't even make the poster! It ruined the film. Now, you can look at that film and "decide" that Travolta was the lead and she was the protagonist - but that's not how it was at the script stage.

    - Bill
    umm - you just said the film was ruined and you suggest people go see it?! aren't we sure that it was only switched b/c travolta wanted to be the lead... and he had the name?

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  • wcmartell
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    At the script stage on PIRATES the chick was the protagonist and all three of the men were equals. After casting, that changed.

    Casting can change the intent of a story. I have a Script Tip on the movie BASIC - the script had a female lead with a male secondary character who helps her. They cast Travolta as the secondary character and Connie Neilson as the lead... and that turned Travolta into the lead... except his character can not be the lead if the story is going to work. She didn't even make the poster! It ruined the film. Now, you can look at that film and "decide" that Travolta was the lead and she was the protagonist - but that's not how it was at the script stage.

    - Bill

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  • TwoBrad Bradley
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    Re: Fatal Flaw?

    Originally posted by BattleDolphinZero View Post
    you said that years ago, I gave it a fresh voice
    Now that I think about it, your version is truer to the book.

    A little cameo would have been nice.

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  • BattleDolphinZero
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    you said that years ago, I gave it a fresh voice

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  • TwoBrad Bradley
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    Re: Fatal Flaw?

    Originally posted by TwoBrad Bradley View Post
    And what about Pirates of the Caribbean? Elizabeth is the protagonist while the story is Mainly focused on a different Character.
    Hello?

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  • Deion22
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    Originally posted by BattleDolphinZero View Post
    I believe Pirates uses this model.

    The writer said that the chick is the hero/protag and Depp is the Main Character.

    You bring up a great point about Pirates. That makes sense. Thanks for the insight.

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  • BattleDolphinZero
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    Originally posted by Deion22 View Post
    It's an old thread. People argued that the Protag and the MC can be split in a movie. They used Shawshank Redemption and other movies for examples. I'm curious if other people believe the same. I always thought the MC and Protag were the same until I read this thread. It had me wondering if it's true they can be split or not.
    I believe Pirates uses this model.

    The writer said that the chick is the hero/protag and Depp is the Main Character.

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  • Why One
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    The protagonist in the person standing in the middle of the movie poster.

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  • Deion22
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    It's an old thread. People argued that the Protag and the MC can be split in a movie. They used Shawshank Redemption and other movies for examples. I'm curious if other people believe the same. I always thought the MC and Protag were the same until I read this thread. It had me wondering if it's true they can be split or not.

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  • wcmartell
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    What? The definition of protagonist is main character. I am confused.

    And where did this thread come from - 27 pages?

    - Bill

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  • Deion22
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    Upping for discussion. Who here thinks Frodo is the MC, and Gandalf the protag? And can that situation work successfully in a screenplay?

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  • jonpiper
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    Thanks, Bros. You had me doubting myself. I thought I wasn't clear.

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  • BrosHarrow
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    Re: Fatal Flaw?

    As in..."dynamite!"

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  • jonpiper
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    In what sense of the word Sick?

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