High Concept vs New High Concept

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I loved The Affair! Well, until they killed Alison off. But up until that point I saw every single episode. I agree, that's a good touchstone.

Ruth Wilson left because of the showrunner making her be naked all the time for no reason.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/fe...issues-1263553

QUOTE from article: says one source with firsthand knowledge of the production. "Over and over again, I witnessed Sarah Treem try to cajole actors to get naked even if they were uncomfortable or not contractually obligated to."

[Vango]

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Not sure if it's been mentioned but probably another attractive thing about high concept is irony in your premise.

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I hate watched every episode from, say, season 2 on. But I was stunned at how good the finale was. Talk about sticking the landing.

Ha! I hate watched the first two seasons. I was intrigued by the technique of different POVs. But I disliked nearly all the characters. Those I didn't dislike were "eh, who cares." Maybe I'll watch the last season for the finale.

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I hate watched every episode from, say, season 2 on. But I was stunned at how good the finale was. Talk about sticking the landing.

I must watch the last season now.

[Satriales]

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I loved The Affair! Well, until they killed Alison off. But up until that point I saw every single episode. I agree, that's a good touchstone.

I hate watched every episode from, say, season 2 on. But I was stunned at how good the finale was. Talk about sticking the landing.

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I think it could be a good TV series. Maybe along the lines of The Affair. It's kindof the same (ish) but different. It would definitely have a lot of opportunity for conflict. Not only from the immediate relationships but also from outside forces.

The Affair has 58 episodes.

I loved The Affair! Well, until they killed Alison off. But up until that point I saw every single episode. I agree, that's a good touchstone.

[finalact4]

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I do think the topic is more suited to feature than a TV pilot. I had never thought about it with a thriller aspect. That is something to think about.

I think it could be a good TV series. Maybe along the lines of The Affair. It's kindof the same (ish) but different. It would definitely have a lot of opportunity for conflict. Not only from the immediate relationships but also from outside forces.

The Affair has 58 episodes.

[jonpiper]

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High.

(And he has the same name as the other guy, because wouldn't they recognize him if he were an action star? Also, maybe he can be guilty of some minor crime, like he owes an ex-wife or ex-husband alimony so there's an added mix up that he thinks he just needs to call his lawyer with a the check is in the mail thing. But then he finds out they think he's really this other guy?)

Good points and suggestions.

Just came up with the idea/concept, triggered by Crayon's which brought back thoughts of the recent killing of a woman mistakenly killed during a no knock warrant. So the concept is completely undeveloped.

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A swat team tries to serve a no knock warrant at 4am to the wrong suburban home, which happens to be fortified and occupied by a well armed retired action star.

High? Low? Not worth talking about? Too close to Crayon's?

High.

(And he has the same name as the other guy, because wouldn't they recognize him if he were an action star? Also, maybe he can be guilty of some minor crime, like he owes an ex-wife or ex-husband alimony so there's an added mix up that he thinks he just needs to call his lawyer with a the check is in the mail thing. But then he finds out they think he's really this other guy?)

[jonpiper]

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A swat team tries to serve a no knock warrant at 4am to the wrong suburban home, which happens to be fortified and occupied by a well armed retired action star.

High? Low? Not worth talking about? Too close to Crayon's?

[Crayon]

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There are bad high concepts.

But at least you're not saying that it's not High Concept - so it's worth a shot, right?

I'm being only partly facetious there, because I reckon that even that "bad high concept", with some genre massaging and a less relaxed logline, could be worth a pitch/query.

HOME OF THE DEAD
Horror
An elderly widower/widow living alone must fortify his/her home, or risk an escape, when faced with a relentless siege of zombies, as the world outside descends into violent disorder.

Maybe that needs a twist and/or more kapow. Perhaps the protagonist turns out to be ex special forces, and has a stash of heavy munitions in their garage. But zombies have broken into the garage. Yes, that's basically Harry Brown [2009] meets John Wick [2014] with zombies.

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There was a show on Audience Network (now defunct) called You Me Her that was about a married couple entering a polyamorous relationship with another woman to spice things up. Decent show from what I saw. Kind of flew under the radar, but it was on for five seasons. Might be worth checking out if you can find it.

Thank you. Interesting! I'll have to find this one. I completely missed it.

[Crayon]

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... a ... couple entering a polyamorous relationship with another woman to spice things up.

Try that with sisters. It's all fun and games for about half an hour, but then it gets rather... um... accusatory.

[docgonzo]

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Most of the polyamorous relationships I've been around, and I've been around more than a few living here in San Francisco, devolved over time due to jealousy. I personally don't understand the arrangement because I have trouble giving enough time to one relationship, let alone multiple relationships. But still polyamory is interesting to me from my armchair.

I do think the topic is more suited to feature than a TV pilot. I had never thought about it with a thriller aspect. That is something to think about.

Your situation where kids are involved makes it more interesting.

Did you see BIG LOVE? I think a lot of the story lines also showed the main character grappling a lot with jealousy of the wives. That was about religious polygamy, not liberal polyamory. But I think much of it ends up being the same. My favorite episode was when the husband character demands a night off to himself because he can't keep up with servicing three women sexually. It still makes me laugh out loud.

There was a show on Audience Network (now defunct) called You Me Her that was about a married couple entering a polyamorous relationship with another woman to spice things up. Decent show from what I saw. Kind of flew under the radar, but it was on for five seasons. Might be worth checking out if you can find it.

[JeffLowell]

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There are bad high concepts.