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    goldmund
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    Re: GITS interview: Craig Mazin

    Originally posted by Craig Mazin View Post
    http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/8423e...#axzz2b96F80Zs

    That aside, consider Step Brothers.

    Made $100M in the U.S.

    Made $27M in the rest of the world.

    There are step brothers in the rest of the world, yeah?
    Thank you for taking time to respond :-)

    Of course, I can't speak for the whole of -- wildly contrasting -- European culture, only the small parts I know. Neither do I know if IT did better in UK than on the -- much larger -- continent.

    As for Step Brothers, I think that

    a) Ferrell isn't a household name (no SNL here)
    b) "step brothers" aren't a recognizable trope, mostly because people don't stick together after a divorce,
    c) being a "middle-aged loser" isn't a pop-cultural trope here. We don't even have a word for "loser" which is one of the few things I love about my country.

    I'm not a marketing expert, but if you asked me if Step Brothers would do well in Europe before the screenings, I'd be positive it wouldn't.

    But, of course, I'm not a very smart person and the world is full of surprises.

    True story: even though they had the precedence to purchase, the former bosses at my TV station decided they won't buy Sex in the City, because nobody here would be interested. The rival station bought it. The rest is history.
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    Last edited by goldmund; 03-09-2015, 04:03 AM.

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  • WaitForIt
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    Originally posted by Craig Mazin View Post
    If your theme isn't an argument, then there's no position for the character to arrive at. This goes back to Aristotle, and what he called "Thought". Poetics says it better than I could.
    Oh, that makes sense now. Thanks. And thanks for doing the interview with Scott.

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  • nic.h
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    I think if it were so easy to "read" what is and isn't going to work in any market, then things either would or wouldn't sell based on this, and this alone. If that were the case, there'd never be a flop, nor would there be a surprise hit.

    My theory on why something very funny (Identity Thief, for example) didn't do well overseas is simple: People are weird. And a little bit dumb.
    Last edited by nic.h; 08-05-2013, 08:10 PM.

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  • Craig Mazin
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    Originally posted by goldmund View Post
    Thanks! Always worthwhile to read some Craig.

    My 3 pennies from a European writer:



    Identity theft is not a problem here, but everyone had a horrible boss. Almost every adult was hungover once, but most people here don't know about NASCAR and car racing isn't a very popular sport.

    It's nothing mysterious.
    http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/8423e...#axzz2b96F80Zs

    That aside, consider Step Brothers.

    Made $100M in the U.S.

    Made $27M in the rest of the world.

    There are step brothers in the rest of the world, yeah?

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  • Craig Mazin
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    If your theme isn't an argument, then there's no position for the character to arrive at. This goes back to Aristotle, and what he called "Thought". Poetics says it better than I could.

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  • WaitForIt
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    Craig, if you swing through here, could you elaborate on this?

    I like to think about a simple theme, but a dramatic argument. That is to say, brotherhood or jealousy is not a very valuable theme for an argument. Better to be yourself than be this, or that.

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  • Dr. Vergerus
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    Re: GITS interview: Craig Mazin

    Why not? We go watch movies about the CIA, about Vietnam, about slavery, about samurai warriors, about cowboys and Native Americans, etc.

    As for the popularity of car racing in Europe, you may have heard of an underground sport called Formula One

    Seriously, I think it's more complicated than that, although I agree that certain subjects don't travel as well as others; but put Robert DeNiro, Tom Cruise and Angelina Jolie in a good movie about baseball, and people will go see it even if they've never seen a baseball game.

    And yes, space opera and fantasy are obviously genres, but they imply very specific story elements like space travel and fantastic creatures, none of which is part of any single audience member's experience (except for a few astronauts).

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  • goldmund
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    Space opera and fantasy are genres, not a subject matter or IP.
    Both cultures are permeated by Arthurian legends and Tolkien's oeuvre.

    If something is simple, it doesn't mean it's false.
    What are the chances Europeans will storm their cinemas to see a movie about Lincoln or baseball? The same with NASCAR and its heroes.

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  • Dr. Vergerus
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    Re: GITS interview: Craig Mazin

    I doubt it's that simple; if it was, space operas and fantasy films wouldn't have an audience at all.

    There are a lot of factors to consider: how idiosyncratic the humor is, how the movie was marketed, how popular the main actors are in those countries, what other movies were released at the same time, etc.

    Another European here, btw.

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  • goldmund
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    Thanks! Always worthwhile to read some Craig.

    My 3 pennies from a European writer:

    Horrible Bosses traveled great, Identity Thief did not. Hangover 2 and Hangover 3 traveled awesome. Talladega Nights, no. I can’t figure it out.
    Identity theft is not a problem here, but everyone had a horrible boss. Almost every adult was hungover once, but most people here don't know about NASCAR and car racing isn't a very popular sport.

    It's nothing mysterious.

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  • Dr. Vergerus
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    Re: GITS interview: Craig Mazin

    Added link to the final part of the interview.

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  • Dr. Vergerus
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    Re: GITS interview: Craig Mazin

    Part 5 is up. Tomorrow, part 6.

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  • pabloamigo
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    The king of the sequel! I always enjoy Craig's musings - I struggle to think of a writer who gives more insight into the biz.

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    Re: GITS interview: Craig Mazin

    Updated with link for part 4. There's a 5th one coming tomorrow.

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    Re: GITS interview: Craig Mazin

    Added link to 3rd part of the interview.

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