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  • #16
    Re: Writer's Arc Program...

    That's your call, batty. The fee went up because the program has expanded. The original fee was as low as it was because applicants were applying to the pilot program. The program has since increased in size and scope and the $60 you referred to is only to allow applicants who don't meet the first round deadline to still apply...the application fee for applicants who get their pages in on time is $45. But if you don't want to apply - don't. Simple as that. Just to address some of your reasoning, though...

    1. Is it really that hard to write 5-10 pages with specific characters, location, and prop? I would think most people would view it more as a fun exercise than a nuisance. I had a lot of fun writing my 5-10 pages when I originally applied. The reason the application process for Writer's Arc is more intensive is because the Program Coordinators aim to prepare you for life as a working screenwriter. Working screenwriters need to be able to pitch and they need to be able to sometimes write pages and give takes with exact specifications on short notice. That's just a fact of the screenwriter's life. I guess you would need to decide if that is a life you want to live. It's a choice. Nobody is twisting your arm.

    2. Yeah, to win the contest they have to like those 5-10 pages enough to get you into round 2 and then they have to like your original script enough once in round 2 to put you into the finals and then once in the finals you have to pitch FIVE IDEAS - not just one - and they have to like your pitches well enough to award you a fellowship. That's how it works, man. If you don't like how it works or if you don't have the necessary confidence that your writing and your ideas will be good enough to win you the Fellowship...not sure what to tell you.

    3. They have the option to Executive Produce the script you write during the Fellowship once it sells to one of their contacts (studio execs, production co's, etc) so how a potential sale can be viewed as "encumbered" is beyond me. Whatever EP credit or fee they receive from whoever (not you) once your script sells they'll deserve it...trust me. They give you professional guidance every step of the way in terms of the development of your idea and the writing of your script. I can attest firsthand that their guidance has been invaluable. And Writer's Arc is a non-profit...whatever monies they get will be invested back into discovering new writers. I would think the promotion and discovery of new writers is an endeavor we should all be on board with.

    In terms of your last comment, I think they are looking for the most talented AND the most eager. It's up to you to decide whether or not you fit that bill, dude. Good luck either way.

    Joe
    "I hate to break it to you but there is no big lie. There is no system. The universe is indifferent.- - Don Draper

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    • #17
      Re: Writer's Arc Program...

      Joe--

      I read over your posts on twoadverbs and I have to say I applaud what you're doing and the sacrifices you're making to pursue your writing. I was also impressed by the access and support the program is providing, so I plan on re-entering even if the application process is uniquely demanding.

      My question is this: since the location provided for the first round pages this time is a station, which in my estimation is pretty much interchangeable with a terminal, will they allow you to re-submit your material from the first time around? You're probably thinking I should be posing this question to the contest admins, but I'd rather not have them know who I am, since the rules don't prohibit this and I may just re-submit my previous entry regardless. I'm also thinking they may have provided a similar location intentionally for writers who advanced last time, to save them the trouble. Why else choose a setting so close to the last?

      Thanks for any thoughts you or anyone else might have.

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      • #18
        Re: Writer's Arc Program...

        Well they actually allowed us -- the current fellows -- to pick the current character and location specs...and the new thing with this round is a prop...so i guess my advice on your 1st round submission would be to just write 5-10 fresh pages tailored to the new specs. That's what I would do because what if it's obvious you just plugged in the new location characters and squeezed in the prop somewhere? I'd probably bite the bullet, write the new pages and make sure my best foot is being put forward.

        But...

        If you're old pages do fit the current specs, nothing prohibits you from plugging in the new specs and submitting that, noneck. Just be sure it really fits. The reason they chose a TERMINAL as the location last time and the reason they signed off when we picked STATION this time is because they want to leave it open to interpretation - they want writers to get creative with their submissions. At the same time, they want to see that you're open to guidance and able to follow directions. I know for a fact if you submit pages that do not specifically meet the new round 1 specs, you won't get through. They pesonally read EVERY submission and if they see pages set in a TERMINAL, etc. what does that tell them about the writer submitting those pages?

        But if you feel your old pages would fit well with the new specs, nothing prohibits you from swapping out the old specs with the new. I'd expect round 1 will be a little harder to get by this time, though, as more people know about the Fellowship now and thus more will apply.

        And thanks for your kind words, NoNeck...I'm trying real hard to achieve out here.
        "I hate to break it to you but there is no big lie. There is no system. The universe is indifferent.- - Don Draper

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