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  • LateNightWriter
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    Thanks FinalAct4! Fingers crossed for October.

    Late Night Writer

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  • finalact4
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    Originally posted by LateNightWriter View Post
    Finals up! I'm in with an action script. Congrats to anyone else advancing.

    Late Night Writer
    Congratulations, Late Night Writer. Fantastic writer and one of the best with notes! Good luck with the Grand Prize or Medal!

    And a shout out to all the writers that made the Page Finals, congratulations and good luck to each of you.

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  • Mintclub
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    Congratulations to everyone on here who placed or is still in the comp. I've been lucky enough to work full time as a writer for a few years now and you know what? It all started (in a roundabout way) thanks to placing in THIS contest. Your journey is your own folks. Best of luck.

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  • UpandComing
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    Congrats, guys!

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  • mtscribe
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    I'm in with one in Family. Can't stop smiling.

    Congrats to all.

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  • LateNightWriter
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    Finals up! I'm in with an action script. Congrats to anyone else advancing.

    Late Night Writer

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  • purplenurple
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    Wow, okay then. Too be honest I never said anything that bad to deem your emotional response. Must of touched on something. It's like going on facebook and seeing someone's pictures and imagining they have it all together and they are the life of the party and then you get to know them and realize they don't go to the Bahamas everyday. They're life is no better then yours - just smoke and mirrors.

    Acquaformosa, in my attempt to question a subject I'm at odds with I gave you a moment of frustration I didn't intend to. Often people deliver sarcasm on threads no matter the board/subject, but I'm not in this instance. I do not have an agenda other then wanting to know if things are on the up & up and sometimes I wonder. Am I wrong? No. Are you wrong? No. But in the end I don't want to be that guy that infuriates another person for having an opinion. Sorry. Since I did not enter the Page contest I should step out of this thread for people who want to read about Page.

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  • acquaformosa
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    To everyone else:
    Apologies for getting slightly off-topic here.

    Best of luck to everyone remaining in the competition... and a hats-off to the hard work by everyone at PAGE. Cheers.

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  • acquaformosa
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    Originally posted by purplenurple View Post
    BUT one thing I will say about you is that if you spend money on several contests a year then you would be lying if you did not hope/dream/ an ounce of belief that you will strike gold at some point. The objective for entering is not to make the quarterfinals or break out the finest wine over a semi final placement. if so then again I'm a lone in thinking like a sporting competition. The objective is to be discovered first and perhaps something to hang your hat on. place win then no one will care but maybe his family.
    Thank you for calling me a liar and taking my remarks completely out of context. You might find this hard to believe, but you might have derived some value in hearing about some of my experiences regarding a few of my contest-related accomplishments and accolades. However, I think you prefer to carry on with your own monologue, so I am completely done with this exchange... and I'm certainly done with you.

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  • purplenurple
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    Okay, as far as doing something and getting joy out of it goes... yes, if you are talking about the act of writing. If writing a script or novel or whatever brings you joy then that is awesome. Same goes for anything. But the topic is about contests and winning a contest and not winning a contest. In the context of what is being discussed your argument is you get joy from simply entering a screenwriting contest with your money. The act of being in a screenplay contest fills you with joy even if you do not place in the contest. Yeah, well I'll be first to say it does not bring me joy to pay money to enter a contest and not be in a position to either win and/or make an industry contact. That is why one enters a contest and that is why there is a prize. Joy can be found in the art of writing, not in the possibility of not making the quarterfinals of *insert* contest.

    Anyone saw the old movie "Breaking Away?" Great movie. Well, in that movie four lower class local guys compete in a big time bike race that usually is won by the upper-class. During the race, the local group's strongest biker is purposely injured by another team - the very team they dislike. This causes the other members of the group to step up and keep the race going but none of them have the stamina or ability of the injured biker. They simply show some heart but they drop farther back in the standings until one of them is able to rally the team back into 4th place where they won't be able to hold that position long. One of the group smiles and says "we showed them." The injured biker says "we didn't show them anything." He then waves in the floundering biker who was at the point of giving up back to the sidelines where they physically tape the injured biker to the pedals and long story short he pulls out the win thus showing up all the other teams including the cheating ones who nod with respect.

    Some people fall into the "we showed them" category having great joy with several attempts of script writing and contest entering that netted them 4th place (insert semi or finals) once. While others know "we didn't show them anything" if they are not in a position that people want to read the script.

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  • cvolante
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    You could win and they could make your movie and it could still come out a piece of sh*t and you'd feel bad all over again. There's no winning anything. Either you do something and get some joy out of it or you don't. If you're not getting joy out of it, then f*ck it. Move on.

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  • purplenurple
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    The parachuting into another thread was funny (maybe cheeky). Yeah, I guess I'm pushing something that I see in the industry. Other people do not have to see it or believe it or agree. it is somewhat telling that most competitions offer "extras" now. Initially when I started I don't remember nearly everyone offering that. I don't think I'm wrong in suggesting people do not read the way they used to... just look at our educational system and the explosion of twitter. But I won't parachute into another thead it doesn't do anyone any good.

    BUT one thing I will say about you is that if you spend money on several contests a year then you would be lying if you did not hope/dream/ an ounce of belief that you will strike gold at some point. The objective for entering is not to make the quarterfinals or break out the finest wine over a semi final placement. if so then again I'm a lone in thinking like a sporting competition. The objective is to be discovered first and perhaps something to hang your hat on. if you spend a few hundred dollars a year and shrug and say the industry "is-what-it-is" and though it would have been nice to get an agent or a phone call from a producer but hey such is life then we have different opinions. On another site there is a guy who is quite pleased he got to the quarterfinals of one of the screencraft contests. He is not wrong pointing out he beat a thousand or so others to the quarterfinals. In my mind if he doesn't close the deal with a first or second place win then no one will care but maybe his family. You write a script and rewrite a script because you believe you can do what pro writers are doing in movies and TV. If you wrote a script or two or even a dozen and the end game is not to be in the industry then that's you. if you plunk down 50 to 100 dollars on a contest and you do not care if it could jump start your possible career and it's all a crap shoot then what can I say. You came on here to put me in my place. I get it. Understood but all you did after that was lay claim you throw money away because it's the nature of the business and have no expectations. That certainly confuses me. You're like those testimonials in contests that claim "being a semi-finalist exceeded my most wildest expectations." Yeah, where are they now? You have to win and even then there's no guarantees.

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  • acquaformosa
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    Originally posted by purplenurple View Post
    Writerz, you are not alone in this frustration. You know it's funny reading testimonials on some of these contests from semi-finalists or finalists that praise the contest and claim it opens doors. I'd love to speak with them 2 months later after the dust settles and the reality that getting 6th place got them nowhere.

    A contest is like the Olympics. If you don't take a medal you don't get endorsements. yeah, there are a few cases of people being contacted/approached when not making the top 3 in a contest but I think it's very rare.

    Here is my experience with contests... over the last 16 or so years I've entered quite a few. There would be gaps of years in between entering as my philosophy of entering contests versus querying production companies changed yearly. In the beginning, I always made at least the quarterfinals which was weird because I wasn't writing very well. Now I'm so much better and more streamlined and have a hard time cracking the quarters. Is it because people are writing better or this sudden money-maker called feedback? Probably a combo... but back to the experience...
    1) I won 1 medium sized genre contest( no longer around) and got some money, software but the first day was exciting. I was contacted by about 6 or 7 industry people. Some were assistants but a few were the real deal. 1 was even a television star. Then the next day it tapered down to 1 industry person contacting me for a read after that nothing. But even still it was exciting. I sent the script out to them and even though nothing happened it was fun to be for a moment "in the game." I made contacts, but over time those contacts slip away - no one ever tells anyone that. Unless you live in LA, those great contacts lose interest in you more with each pitch you send them. ** I also queried like hell being a winner and drummed up some interest.
    2) Got to the finals of 2 contests... Most recent was Breakthrough With A Scream. Nothing happened. No one asked for a read. I then queried tons of people with my achievement of getting into the finals and I got 1 request from Zero Gravity too which I never heard back one way or another. Just to note Zero Gravity was associated with the contest so I thought I had a good chance.
    3) Got a few quarterfinals and 1 semi finals but they never netted anything and not worth querying (it wasn't Nichol). In the one I got to the semis with, an entertainment lawyer who was a reader called me and asked if I had representation because he liked the script (this was prior to me getting the semi announcement) and that he'd like to champion the script. Never heard back from him. Probably because the script didn't advance.
    4) Of late a few misses... meaning not advancing one way or another.

    My mentality is if you do not win or get second and if people do not contact you for the script then you wasted your money. Just my opinion. I know people praise themselves for getting into the semis or even top ten and it feels good but truthfully if no one is calling you then it means nothing.
    Okay, PurplePurple, you've parachuted into a number of different threads now to express your frustration over contests. You hijacked one thread to renew your original post regarding "contest paranoia" and what exactly are you saying here that nobody already knows?

    Newsflash: There's no guarantee to a screenwriter who doesn't do well in a highly regarded contest and the contests themselves use writers' sucessess to help market their own enterprise. I would, too. Mind you, I never heard of Breakthrough with a Scream, but that's just me... plus, I usually try to be fairly discerning with the contest game.

    What next? A complaint that once a writer gets a rep, it doesn't guarantee that a writer is going to get meetings with interested A-list producers?

    I enter anywhere from 5-10 contests per year (just can't help myself sometimes), depending on the nature of a script or my relative output over the course of that year (hopefully I've written 1-2 scripts so budget sometimes dictates). So what are my expectations? Perhaps a combination of validation (recognizing that this one is a psychological and subjective wildcard) and some form of exposure. I recognize the subjectivity of the industry so more power to you if you know with such certainty when you were writing poorly versus executing on a compelling premise, which doesn't seem to be getting recognized to your satisfaction.

    Anyway, I swear I'm not trying to be overly cheeky or snarky here, but you seem hellbent on turning every thread into a crowd-sourcing referendum that confirms your own morose cynicism. So I've had some significant "successes" with a few high-profile contests, so you'll probably point to me and say, "See? I told ya so. This guy is still a relative nobody." Yup. True. Guilty as charged.

    However, I've never had any misguided illusions about this industry so anything that didn't get parlayed into something larger is partly my own doing and certainly just the nature of the beast. The odds are always going to be rather long, so you either accept it as endemic to the industry when you get into this business or you don't. I think that going on a harangue about the contests feels a little misguided... cause the alternative is really pretty simple.

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  • purplenurple
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    Writerz, you are not alone in this frustration. You know it's funny reading testimonials on some of these contests from semi-finalists or finalists that praise the contest and claim it opens doors. I'd love to speak with them 2 months later after the dust settles and the reality that getting 6th place got them nowhere.

    A contest is like the Olympics. If you don't take a medal you don't get endorsements. yeah, there are a few cases of people being contacted/approached when not making the top 3 in a contest but I think it's very rare.

    Here is my experience with contests... over the last 16 or so years I've entered quite a few. There would be gaps of years in between entering as my philosophy of entering contests versus querying production companies changed yearly. In the beginning, I always made at least the quarterfinals which was weird because I wasn't writing very well. Now I'm so much better and more streamlined and have a hard time cracking the quarters. Is it because people are writing better or this sudden money-maker called feedback? Probably a combo... but back to the experience...
    1) I won 1 medium sized genre contest( no longer around) and got some money, software but the first day was exciting. I was contacted by about 6 or 7 industry people. Some were assistants but a few were the real deal. 1 was even a television star. Then the next day it tapered down to 1 industry person contacting me for a read after that nothing. But even still it was exciting. I sent the script out to them and even though nothing happened it was fun to be for a moment "in the game." I made contacts, but over time those contacts slip away - no one ever tells anyone that. Unless you live in LA, those great contacts lose interest in you more with each pitch you send them. ** I also queried like hell being a winner and drummed up some interest.
    2) Got to the finals of 2 contests... Most recent was Breakthrough With A Scream. Nothing happened. No one asked for a read. I then queried tons of people with my achievement of getting into the finals and I got 1 request from Zero Gravity too which I never heard back one way or another. Just to note Zero Gravity was associated with the contest so I thought I had a good chance.
    3) Got a few quarterfinals and 1 semi finals but they never netted anything and not worth querying (it wasn't Nichol). In the one I got to the semis with, an entertainment lawyer who was a reader called me and asked if I had representation because he liked the script (this was prior to me getting the semi announcement) and that he'd like to champion the script. Never heard back from him. Probably because the script didn't advance.
    4) Of late a few misses... meaning not advancing one way or another.

    My mentality is if you do not win or get second and if people do not contact you for the script then you wasted your money. Just my opinion. I know people praise themselves for getting into the semis or even top ten and it feels good but truthfully if no one is calling you then it means nothing.

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  • FoxHound
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    Originally posted by Goliath View Post
    Maybe you want to share the logline? I'm guessing only the title and logline of your script is read by potential suitors, so one or the other (probably the logline) must be the issue your script had zero reads.

    I seem to recall in another thread you lamented that most contest winning scripts are unfilmable/boring. So I'm confused whether you think that if your script wins, it has to be labelled that kind of film (Personally, I believe autobiographical, historical, and/or western scripts fare better on average)
    The logline was workshopped here on DD Pro last year. It got me reads before. But it just seems like mentioning the finals placement is hurting its chances.

    Well it didn't win so it confirms my point

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