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  • nguyensquared
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    This is highly unlikely. I've read for several contests and know of many others who read for some of the bigger ones, and there's no reason to read a script a second time just for the purpose of notes as that's simply a waste of time (a contest can have a second reader with a second set of notes, however). Usually, whoever does the reading also provides the feedback.

    Originally posted by asteven50 View Post
    A couple things.

    First, in most contests readers and feedback-givers are not the same people. Contests will employ people to do early round reading but writing the actual notes are usually handled by a more experienced group who have a development background, or in some cases by the proprietors of the contest themselves. There are of course exceptions to this, such as the Nicholl, where the readers are ALL people with development backgrounds, but I'm speaking from my experience here as a screencraft winner and as someone who has read for contests before.

    Second, in all my experiences, readers aren't in control of what they read. In my case, batches of scripts were assigned randomly. You got about 10-15 at a time and when you were done, you asked for more. It wasn't a situation where you could pass on reading one script to choose another, regardless of whether or not the writer paid for notes.

    Now, to your point on whether or not readers cut corners, skim, or just pretend to read scripts. Of course this happens, and it's not paranoid of you to think so. Readers are human beings. They're not going to waste time on something that clearly isn't going to move forward. When I was a reader, this was actually an instruction given to us by the head of the contest. I remember him saying something like "If you're 5 pages in and it's a story of a dish towel falling in love with a wash cloth, get the jist of it and move on". This is SOP for contests, but the effect of it is mitigated by the fact that most of the larger ones promise multiple reads on every script. So if you are the writer of Dish Towel meets Wash Cloth, you'd need two separate readers to both throw their hands up and say "screw this thing" in order to fail. It's a highly subjective process just like the rest of the industry.

    Hope this helps shed some light.

    A

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  • purplenurple
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    Went on their facebook page(screencraft) and saw a few people in different genre contests asking the same thing... "when is such & such contest results going to be announced?" If one is running something like screencraft with 3 - 4 contests going on at once with different genres then who is reading them? How much volume is put on one reader? Read 5 horror scripts, 5 sci-fi scripts, 5 shorts scripts etc etc a week? A day?

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  • dcribbs
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    Kudos on advancing, Acquaformosa! Good luck! Does anyone know what % they use for quarters? 10%? 25%? I'm curious because a buddy and I entered a Pilot. We won't hear for about 6 weeks, but hope springs eternal.

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  • acquaformosa
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    I advanced... but then, so did 265 other writers. We'll see how it goes.

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  • asteven50
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    I saw they announced. Anybody here make it?

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  • Paracellsus
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    Nothing yet. Didn't request feedback though so not sure about that side of it.

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  • purplenurple
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    It does shed light thanks.

    Back on topic... anyone get in the quarterfinals or semis yet for this contest? I'm not in it but interested in maybe doing one of their other contests. interested in hearing about it. They seem to do consulting so my radar is up as far as feeling "uh oh." But we've had legit responses to this thread that could contradict that feeling. Basically - quarterfinalists? Semis? Any announcement?

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  • asteven50
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    Originally posted by purplenurple View Post
    Would an under paid reader read "Suicide Squad" after 2 pages when he/she could move on to a feedback script which is more money?
    A couple things.

    First, in most contests readers and feedback-givers are not the same people. Contests will employ people to do early round reading but writing the actual notes are usually handled by a more experienced group who have a development background, or in some cases by the proprietors of the contest themselves. There are of course exceptions to this, such as the Nicholl, where the readers are ALL people with development backgrounds, but I'm speaking from my experience here as a screencraft winner and as someone who has read for contests before.

    Second, in all my experiences, readers aren't in control of what they read. In my case, batches of scripts were assigned randomly. You got about 10-15 at a time and when you were done, you asked for more. It wasn't a situation where you could pass on reading one script to choose another, regardless of whether or not the writer paid for notes.

    Now, to your point on whether or not readers cut corners, skim, or just pretend to read scripts. Of course this happens, and it's not paranoid of you to think so. Readers are human beings. They're not going to waste time on something that clearly isn't going to move forward. When I was a reader, this was actually an instruction given to us by the head of the contest. I remember him saying something like "If you're 5 pages in and it's a story of a dish towel falling in love with a wash cloth, get the jist of it and move on". This is SOP for contests, but the effect of it is mitigated by the fact that most of the larger ones promise multiple reads on every script. So if you are the writer of Dish Towel meets Wash Cloth, you'd need two separate readers to both throw their hands up and say "screw this thing" in order to fail. It's a highly subjective process just like the rest of the industry.

    Hope this helps shed some light.

    A

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  • purplenurple
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    Would an under paid reader read "Suicide Squad" after 2 pages when he/she could move on to a feedback script which is more money?

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  • purplenurple
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    No, it holds water. it's just for every example of my theory there's examples of your experiences. Maybe it's true, maybe it isn't or maybe it just has to do with which contest. This argument is like me saying "wall street does illegal stuff all the time for a buck" and you know a stock broker who doesn't roll like that. Some readers have to much on their plate and cut corners or are impatient by the 2nd paragraph of a screenplay while others are diligent.

    Look the funny thing about it all is there are so many bad films made. I saw Suicide Squad and it was weak especially toward the end. Without going into the first draft probably was better then the next zillion drafts after notes from everyone and a few other writers brought on, I always find it humorous how the system wants a first time screenwriter to write on par with the film "Citizen Kane" and yet 6 out of 7 movies made wouldn't make the quarter finals of a big contest in script form. Try reading some of the action scripts done by 6 and 7 figure income pros - they're hit or miss.

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  • LateNightWriter
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    I did not pay for ScreenCraft feedback, Purplenurple. And I did not pay for feedback in the PAGE, where I have won both Gold and Silver.

    I have paid for comments in the Nicholl, but I highly doubt that buying comments in that contest has any effect on advancing.

    If a contest is run with integrity, buying feedback shouldn't matter.

    I don't believe your theory holds water. If you want to buy feedback, buy it. But it will not help your script advance.

    Late Night Writer

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  • purplenurple
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    Why are you sorry? Oh, I guess it shoots down my theory only you didn't get 1st. Maybe if you paid for feedback... I'm jk Good for you.

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  • asteven50
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    Originally posted by purplenurple View Post
    Awesome asteven50. Yeah, did you pay for feedback?
    No, I didn't. Sorry!

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  • purplenurple
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    Awesome asteven50. Yeah, did you pay for feedback?

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  • liverbird
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    Congrats, asteven50 that is fantastic news. Would you mind telling us if you paid for feedback in this contest, and if you did was it worth it? Just curious as I am thinking of entering their action/thriller contest and was wondering about the feedback option.

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