Franklin Leonard

[catcon]

Re: Franklin Leonard

I had a script request too, 12 days ago, via LinkedIn; wonder if it was the same producer? No matter, yours originally saw your work on the BL, right? This just goes to prove one of my assertions that, in their search for material, these people look all over the place. Good!

[finalact4]

Re: Franklin Leonard

Is this the same producer you asked about in another thread or a second producer? Either way - congrats. But I'm pretty sure this was all you from sending out your work. No doubt, someone you queried the script to, mentioned it to producer (if you didn't directly query this person) and that's how "they found you."

Just seems like too much of a coincidence that you are querying with Tracker and now he finds it after it was there for a long time... right?

My point is this was your doing not the BL.

thank you, Strangerthanfiction, i appreciate the good vibes!

Bono, yes it is the same. the call went great. and you're probably right.

it might have been because it was on the Twitter #WGAspeclist that Gary Graham sent around, and then he saw the black list reviews. it was an exciting call.

very exciting. again.

[Bono]

Re: Franklin Leonard

i know a lot of people have had negative experiences in the past on The Black List. and i am in no way disputing their experiences. it's hard no matter which path you take.

but, i just got off the phone with a producer that saw my spec on the black list and read the reviews. he said, "the scores were pretty high so I thought I should read it."

he contacted me through Linked In directly-- which i respect a lot, asking ii i was the "Lisa" that wrote (blah, blah) i said yes, and sent him the spec.

he loves it. i mean, full of energy and all out passion for it. he wants to produce it and thinks he can get it made. he's legit. we're going out to financiers next week. he thinks we can attract top talent for the main characters.

i've been down this road before. it's far, far, far, from close to happening, but today is a good day.

everyone's path is different. my only point, is that even if it seems futile, you still have to do everything you can to make your dreams a reality. if that means you choose to continue to host your script on the black list even though you're not on the top lists, then do it.

for those, like me, that need the occasional pep talk--

don't give up.

Is this the same producer you asked about in another thread or a second producer? Either way - congrats. But I'm pretty sure this was all you from sending out your work. No doubt, someone you queried the script to, mentioned it to producer (if you didn't directly query this person) and that's how "they found you."

Just seems like too much of a coincidence that you are querying with Tracker and now he finds it after it was there for a long time... right?

My point is this was your doing not the BL.

[finalact4]

Re: Franklin Leonard

i know a lot of people have had negative experiences in the past on The Black List. and i am in no way disputing their experiences. it's hard no matter which path you take.

but, i just got off the phone with a producer that saw my spec on the black list and read the reviews. he said, "the scores were pretty high so I thought I should read it."

he contacted me through Linked In directly-- which i respect a lot, asking ii i was the "Lisa" that wrote (blah, blah) i said yes, and sent him the spec.

he loves it. i mean, full of energy and all out passion for it. he wants to produce it and thinks he can get it made. he's legit. we're going out to financiers next week. he thinks we can attract top talent for the main characters.

i've been down this road before. it's far, far, far, from close to happening, but today is a good day.

everyone's path is different. my only point, is that even if it seems futile, you still have to do everything you can to make your dreams a reality. if that means you choose to continue to host your script on the black list even though you're not on the top lists, then do it.

for those, like me, that need the occasional pep talk--

don't give up.

[Done Deal Pro]

Re: Franklin Leonard

Most sites have either disappeared or gone fallow. Mystery Man on Film supposedly died. Kid in the Front Row went on hiatus. The Bitter Script Reader posts occasionally on his blog. Trigger Street shut down. Done Deal Pro closed its message boards."

It did? I was away from screenwriting for a while, but I don't recall this happening.

No. We never closed. There was a point where I had to look at closing them down due to the costs of hosting; but the community pushed to raise funds and were most kind & generous to donate a year's worth of hosting fees to keep all going. That got the forums over the hump. All worked out.

[GhostWhite]

Re: Franklin Leonard

From an article posted 7/23 by Scott Myers on the Go Into the Story blog (official screenwriting blog of The Black list)

"Then there were the online writing communities where people could congregate on message boards and share thoughts and insights about the craft. The two mentioned in the email I received - Trigger Street and Done Deal Pro - were extremely active for many years.

What happened?

Most sites have either disappeared or gone fallow. Mystery Man on Film supposedly died. Kid in the Front Row went on hiatus. The Bitter Script Reader posts occasionally on his blog. Trigger Street shut down. Done Deal Pro closed its message boards."

It did? I was away from screenwriting for a while, but I don't recall this happening.

[Friday]

Re: Franklin Leonard

Franklin Leonard threads are like Terminator movies. They'll just keep remaking them. It will go on forever.

[GucciGhostXXX]

Re: Franklin Leonard

Just for that I'm going to personally see to it this thread lives for as long as I do.

I too would like to contribute to the eternal longevity of this thread...

Let.
There.
Be.
Life.

And just like that, in two posts we're back. Ha!

[docgonzo]

Re: Franklin Leonard

Why.
Won't.
This.
Thread.
Die?

Just for that I'm going to personally see to it this thread lives for as long as I do.

[Friday]

Re: Franklin Leonard

Nah... I don't think so. No one cares about you, unless they do. Also, you can always reinvent yourself as a writer. If you're "cold" you can turn right around and write something amazing and suddenly be hot.

I'll admit it, I've "crapped out." I got the golden ticket and blew it with a big producer. Taught me A FUKK TON about strategy. This producer took me under his wing and I fukked it up by being too arrogant. Don't do that! (Meaning, I thought I knew what I was doing, had 2 scripts out at the same time that were doing well for me. "I got this Hollywood sh!t. I get it!" It's EASY! Nope!). Namely, never go off and write an entire script when they merely ask for an outline. THEY'LL HATE IT! Because they have zero mental equity in the game. Never do that, they won't be impressed. The "pass" phone call will last exactly 30 seconds. That script got exactly ONE read, and that's all it will ever get.

RULES: Follow them as they pertain to navigating the industry, ignore them as they pertain to navigating script formate. IMO.

You seem to have landed on your feet with a nice manager. I'll keep that in mind. I probably would have made that mistake of writing out an entire script.

[Friday]

Re: Franklin Leonard

Why.
Won't.
This.
Thread.
Die?

If you kill it, three more will grow in it's place. You will only make it stronger.

[Bono]

Re: Franklin Leonard

Why.
Won't.
This.
Thread.
Die?

[Hernan Giaggio]

Re: Franklin Leonard

RULES: Follow them as they pertain to navigating the industry, ignore them as they pertain to navigating script formate. IMO.

I def agree with this.

[GucciGhostXXX]

Re: Franklin Leonard

This question is more about something pointed out in another thread and not the Blacklist. Writers have to start over all the time and it's not likely a smooth journey. So do these producers and managers keep a database of script coverages and options and then see "Oh, she was formerly repped; or this script didn't do so well at this production company." Or maybe even fellowships keep track of scripts and their scores. Just curious if there's a scarlet letter that follows you around. You improve as a writer, year by year, even month by month. So, just wondering if some script you optioned years ago will stick with you.

Nah... I don't think so. No one cares about you, unless they do. Also, you can always reinvent yourself as a writer. If you're "cold" you can turn right around and write something amazing and suddenly be hot.

I'll admit it, I've "crapped out." I got the golden ticket and blew it with a big producer. Taught me A FUKK TON about strategy. This producer took me under his wing and I fukked it up by being too arrogant. Don't do that! (Meaning, I thought I knew what I was doing, had 2 scripts out at the same time that were doing well for me. "I got this Hollywood sh!t. I get it!" It's EASY! Nope!). Namely, never go off and write an entire script when they merely ask for an outline. THEY'LL HATE IT! Because they have zero mental equity in the game. Never do that, they won't be impressed. The "pass" phone call will last exactly 30 seconds. That script got exactly ONE read, and that's all it will ever get.

RULES: Follow them as they pertain to navigating the industry, ignore them as they pertain to navigating script formate. IMO.

[Friday]

Re: Franklin Leonard

This question is more about something pointed out in another thread and not the Blacklist. Writers have to start over all the time and it's not likely a smooth journey. So do these producers and managers keep a database of script coverages and options and then see "Oh, she was formerly repped; or this script didn't do so well at this production company." Or maybe even fellowships keep track of scripts and their scores. Just curious if there's a scarlet letter that follows you around. You improve as a writer, year by year, even month by month. So, just wondering if some script you optioned years ago will stick with you.