Cell Phones in secure facilities

[jillybob]

Are cell phones permitted in highly secure locations like government/intelligence offices -- FBI, CIA, DoD? Would it be a situation where regular employees have government-issued cell phones that are permitted, but visitors would not be permitted to bring a phone in?

I'm trying to figure out if an employee at the assistant level -- basically a secretarial position -- would have a cell phone at work or not. And also what level of security would be on the land lines. I know that government offices use secure phones that cannot be tapped (if calling to another secure land line), but I don't know if they can be monitored in-house if, say, an employee is under suspicion.

Thanks for any help you can offer!

[cmmora]

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I always ask myself this because on 24 the moles in the FBI like walk around chatting with moles in the White House on their cell...

[Code7Films]

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"highly secure locations like government/intelligence offices -- FBI, CIA, DoD?"


They are more worried about camera phones being used to take pictures of sensitive information, locations, etc.

Employees are allowed to have cell phones depending on their job, clearance, etc.

[Jake Schuster]

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Interesting question. Code7: would the phones held by secure personnel be somehow "cleared" equipment, or agency-provided? I think the question is really whether an employee could use his or her own cellphone in, say, the FBI building or CIA.

[Code7Films]

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Interesting question. Code7: would the phones held by secure personnel be somehow "cleared" equipment, or agency-provided?

Cell phones would no doubt be agency owned and issued depending on the job and clearance. They would be subject to monitoring and/or tracking.

A low level employee could have a cell phone at work as long as she has supervisor approval, but there would be restrictions regarding use while on the property.

I think the question is really whether an employee could use his or her own cellphone in, say, the FBI building or CIA.

[Jake Schuster]

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So what's the answer, Code7? You're (seriously) our go-to man for such matters. I'm curious, mostly for future work and not for infiltration and subversion, which I gave up in 1968.

[Code7Films]

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So what's the answer, Code7? You're (seriously) our go-to man for such matters. I'm curious, mostly for future work and not for infiltration and subversion, which I gave up in 1968.

Do you want a copy of your file...

[Jake Schuster]

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Ha! Actually I know I have a file with the FBI (who in my generation doesn't?), but I'm afraid to ask for it out of fear they'll start watching me again!

I hung out with some pretty shady guys. Even one who'd trained with Che Guevara. Wait... I think someone's watching me from a black car across the street...

[mtoomey]

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in most DOE and DOD facilities, cell phones are permitted in "uncleared" areas. In cleared areas (higher security), cell phones are not permitted, with the exception of gov't issued phones.

Regarding a DOE facility that I'm familiar with, camera phones were not allowed anywhere onsite until just recently. they finally realized that the only phones available w/o a camera are crap phones.
MT

[Code7Films]

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Ha! Actually I know I have a file with the FBI (who in my generation doesn't?), but I'm afraid to ask for it out of fear they'll start watching me again!

I hung out with some pretty shady guys. Even one who'd trained with Che Guevara. Wait... I think someone's watching me from a black car across the street...

You'll get the copy they want you to see. You never get the complete file... Freedom of Information Act is a fraud...

[jillybob]

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Okay, I think I have some good stuff to work with here. Thanks, guys!

I have no compunction about tinkering the details and moving away from ultimate realism in order to make the story work. (Although maybe not to the degree of "24." They had a supposedly surreptitious dude in the White House ON A WALKIE TALKIE with the bad guys! A freaking loud walkie talkie that any passing person would have overheard. Sheesh. Me, I have neither a contract at Fox nor Keifer Sutherland, so I'm not gonna chance playing quite so fast and loose with the sensemaking.) I just like to know, at least, what the minimum framework is for what is likely/possible/plausible, and then if I want to take a small leap or two from there, I'm okay with that.

I prefer to research and know the facts, and then eff around with them.

But now I have to put on my tin foil hat and hide in a corner, because Code got me all askeert that The Man is watching. Eep!

Thanks again, everyone!

[Signal30]

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Do you want a copy of your file...

Kinda wingin' it, aren't you?

[Code7Films]

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Kinda wingin' it, aren't you?

OMG you're on to me...

[Jcorona]

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Code, you did not quote George Washington.

I'm sorry, man, I'm just in a very silly mood and barely awake.

Corona

[Code7Films]

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Too many blunts lately?