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  • Centos
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    Originally posted by dpaterso View Post
    The answer's yes, RTF and plain text exports can be imported into anything, and Final Draft XML presumably is made for Final Draft users. Yes there are many screenwriting programs/apps around, I use Movie Magic and it is excellent, with a good import option. But pro software is pricey. I'd probably still be using Trelby or Sophocles (now defunct but it was a nice program) if I hadn't won my copy of MM in a contest!
    I liked Movie Magic Screenwriter. When I went to Linux I ran a Windows virtual machine just to run MMS for a couple years, but finally gave up on that when Trelby came out. I just didn't want to bother with Windows on my Linux computer.

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  • Centos
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    Originally posted by gardnuk View Post
    On this note---big question. Say I write a screenplay in Trelby and then decide to defect to another software. Can my Trelby-written manuscript be crossed over (pasted) into a new system?
    online applications. WriterSolo (https://writersolo.com/#AP67W~***~branch=-) is free and can be used online or downloaded to your computer (for Macs, Windows or Linux). It's the non-collaborating version of its sibling WriterDuet (which can also be used free for up to three scripts, but with collaboration features turned off). A very simple free online application is YouMeScript (https://youmescript.com/). You don't even have to log in with this one. They do sell "premium features" for $20 a year, but I don't think there is any A4 setting (although it will allow you to export to Final Draft, Final Draft 11, Fountain, Plain (formatted) text and PDF). And this one can be set up to save (and backup) to Google Drive or Dropbox (plus download to your computer). Celtx (https://www.celtx.comhttps://www.arcstudiopro.com/Offline, I would try Trelby or KIT Scenarist or WriterSolo. Both online/offline, I would look at WriterSolo. Or try the Demo version of Fade In Pro.

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  • gardnuk
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    FINAL DRAFT---is that software? Or an option?

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  • dpaterso
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    Originally posted by gardnuk View Post
    On this note, going back, I was curious if you ever submitted a final screenplay using that BBC format?
    I did not, but it got me started off, it was a very handy tool that produced a decent-looking screenplay. The only thing about it was, if you had any CONT'D elements at the bottom of a page, and you inserted lines earlier on, you had to scroll through the doc and correct the CONT'Ds which had maybe bumped halfway down the next page and were unnecessary. When I eventually tried a test submission to the BBC I was forced to use Final Draft (with tiny Arial 11-point font!) which was their preference. Brrrr.

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  • gardnuk
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    On this note, going back, I was curious if you ever submitted a final screenplay using that BBC format?

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  • dpaterso
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    The answer's yes, RTF and plain text exports can be imported into anything, and Final Draft XML presumably is made for Final Draft users. Yes there are many screenwriting programs/apps around, I use Movie Magic and it is excellent, with a good import option. But pro software is pricey. I'd probably still be using Trelby or Sophocles (now defunct but it was a nice program) if I hadn't won my copy of MM in a contest!

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  • gardnuk
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    On this note---big question. Say I write a screenplay in Trelby and then decide to defect to another software. Can my Trelby-written manuscript be crossed over (pasted) into a new system?

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  • gardnuk
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    All sounds good and helpful all the above. Yet I'm curious why there are so many screenplay software programs out there. If I find a program I like, I'll stick to it. It's not an issue like changing camera or car brands. The only reason I'm defecting from the old BBC program is that it's begun jamming up my Word software.

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  • dpaterso
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    Originally posted by Centos View Post
    For changing your paper size (before printing) go to Script > Settings > Change and then choose Paper.
    Well there ya go. Knew it had to be somewhere. :)

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  • Centos
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    Originally posted by ComicBent View Post
    EDIT TO ADD: You can select paper type. Under FILE on the Main Menu, you see some icons down the left side of the screen. The sixth one down is Script Settings. You can click it and then choose Paper to set your paper type. The default seems to be A4 paper in any case.
    There are two types of settings, Script Settings (as you mention above) and Global Settings. You can create multiple configuration files for both and just load what you need at the time you need it. This is the way I got around the A4 default (since I always want to use Letter).

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  • Centos
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    Originally posted by ComicBent View Post
    Trelby is not only abandonware, but also crapware. Stay away from it.

    (Sorry, Centos, I know that you always liked Trelby, but it is deficient in various ways. ?)

    EDIT TO ADD: You can select paper type. Under FILE on the Main Menu, you see some icons down the left side of the screen. The sixth one down is Script Settings. You can click it and then choose Paper to set your paper type. The default seems to be A4 paper in any case.
    Of course I disagree. Trelby does things differently, but it's neither "Abandonware" nor "Crapware." It's been open sourced and it's written in Python. Anyone could take the source from Git Hub and produce a more modern version of it, if they wished.

    Some of the features that make Trelby a good choice.

    It has PDF creation "built-in." It doesn't depend on whatever you happen to have on your computer (with varying quality) for producing PDFs. (That may be an issue with most Windows screenplay applications now, I don't know.) I don't really consider printing to PDF a problem. So you print to a screenplay formatted PDF and (using your PDF viewer) you print to paper... what's the issue?

    If you want to post screenplay snippets on public forums (like this one) you can just select what you want to display and use System Copy (formatted) choice and paste properly formatted text into the forum... no other screenplay application does that as easily. Sample...

    Code:
    FADE IN:
    
    INT. DINER -- NIGHT
    
    Red naugahyde, chrome, a ceiling fan rotating slowly. No
    customers. Lights dimmed.
    
    Estella, strikingly pretty, in a 50s style waitress uniform,
    fills the salt shakers.
    
    Out of sight, someone is singing in the kitchen. We hear the
    sound of pots and pans clanging in the sink.
    
    The door opens, wind whistling. Dan, the beat cop, in 50s
    uniform, stomps snow off his polished shoes as he enters.
    
    Estella is preoccupied with her salt shakers.
    
                          ESTELLA
              We're clos--
    
    Sees Dan, smiles.
    
                          ESTELLA
              Oh, it's you. You're late. Your
              coffee is getting cold.
    Trelby has an elegant and simple interface.

    Trelby does an excellent job of importing and exporting Fountain, Final Draft and (formatted) Text files.

    Trelby is extremely customizable.

    Trelby has decent reporting capabilities, including the ability to compare two revisions of the same script.

    Trelby has a name database of over 200,000 names. I think the only other screenplay application that has something similar is Movie Magic Screenwriter (at least it used to).

    Trelby is completely free.

    In my opinion it's definitely NOT "crapware." I have access to several, more modern, applications. I choose to use Trelby because (for my purposes) it's better.

    EDIT: Oh, and it let's me use the left parentheses to create a parenthetical. (I really do like that, though.)
    Last edited by Centos; 10-17-2020, 06:55 PM.

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  • Centos
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    Originally posted by dpaterso View Post
    When I browsed the PDF (in my browser, Firefox) and selected the print icon, and then selected Preferences > Advanced, I could adjust the paper size from default Letter to A4.

    Best I could come up with, sorry. Trelby, although functional for writing, lacks certain features you might wish it had. (And whose omission is puzzling.)
    EDIT: An image of "modern" Trelby.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ruk...ew?usp=sharing
    Last edited by Centos; 10-17-2020, 06:53 PM.

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  • Centos
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    Originally posted by gardnuk View Post
    Does Trelby take metric size paginating into account?
    Yes, it defaults to A4 and shows both metric and "standard" measurements. ("Standard" because I can't currently come up with the proper term.)

    Paper Setting in Trelby.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/18oP...ew?usp=sharing
    Last edited by Centos; 10-17-2020, 05:14 PM.

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  • ComicBent
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    Okay, I downloaded Trelby (I had long ago decided not to have anything to do with it anymore). Derek (dpaterso) is correct. You can only print to PDF. I imported a Fountain file that I had. First, I discovered that the italics from the Fountain file (indicated with *text*) did not import as italics. Then I discovered that you cannot make anything italics in Trelby. This sounds incredible, but I even did a Google search, and found that others have been perplexed by the same issue.

    Since this was just a test, I did not save the PDF. Apparently it gets created and displayed but not saved unless you save it. Usually a program will ask you to name a PDF before it displays the PDF.

    Trelby is not only abandonware, but also crapware. Stay away from it.

    (Sorry, Centos, I know that you always liked Trelby, but it is deficient in various ways. ?)

    EDIT TO ADD: You can select paper type. Under FILE on the Main Menu, you see some icons down the left side of the screen. The sixth one down is Script Settings. You can click it and then choose Paper to set your paper type. The default seems to be A4 paper in any case.

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