On this note, going back, I was curious if you ever submitted a final screenplay using that BBC format?
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Originally posted by gardnuk View PostOn this note, going back, I was curious if you ever submitted a final screenplay using that BBC format?
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Originally posted by gardnuk View PostOn this note---big question. Say I write a screenplay in Trelby and then decide to defect to another software. Can my Trelby-written manuscript be crossed over (pasted) into a new system?
I failed to notice originally that you were looking for online applications. WriterSolo (https://writersolo.com/#AP67W~***~branch=-) is free and can be used online or downloaded to your computer (for Macs, Windows or Linux). It's the non-collaborating version of its sibling WriterDuet (which can also be used free for up to three scripts, but with collaboration features turned off). A very simple free online application is YouMeScript (https://youmescript.com/). You don't even have to log in with this one. They do sell "premium features" for $20 a year, but I don't think there is any A4 setting (although it will allow you to export to Final Draft, Final Draft 11, Fountain, Plain (formatted) text and PDF). And this one can be set up to save (and backup) to Google Drive or Dropbox (plus download to your computer). Celtx (https://www.celtx.com) is online and the free version has similar limitations to as has WriterDuet. Only it goes one step further and watermarks PDFs produced in it with its own ad. (Pretty easy to remove its watermarks with a text editor, however.) I don't particularly like Celtx because it has limited export features, but it's another online choice. Currently you can use Arc Studio Pro for free and without limitations, online and/or download a Windows or Mac application — no Linux version (https://www.arcstudiopro.com/). It has a clean, slick interface — but, now that I think about it, I don't think it supports A4 paper size. They're eventually going to start charging again, but they say there will be a free version (I don't know how limited that version will be). The collaboration features work well on this one. If you want to learn the Fountain syntax, 'Afterwriting is online (and can be used offline in your browser) and produces very nicely formatted screenplay PDFs. (It defaults to A4.) So there are a lot of ways to write online (or offline) for free.
Rambling again. Sorry. Offline, I would try Trelby or KIT Scenarist or WriterSolo. Both online/offline, I would look at WriterSolo. Or try the Demo version of Fade In Pro.STANDARD DISCLAIMER: I'm a wannabe, take whatever I write with a huge grain of salt.
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Originally posted by dpaterso View PostThe answer's yes, RTF and plain text exports can be imported into anything, and Final Draft XML presumably is made for Final Draft users. Yes there are many screenwriting programs/apps around, I use Movie Magic and it is excellent, with a good import option. But pro software is pricey. I'd probably still be using Trelby or Sophocles (now defunct but it was a nice program) if I hadn't won my copy of MM in a contest!STANDARD DISCLAIMER: I'm a wannabe, take whatever I write with a huge grain of salt.
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Originally posted by gardnuk View PostFINAL DRAFT---is that software? Or an option?
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I checked them out. What price glory? So long as your script is neat looking and follows format and your content is engaging I don’t see how using expensive software is all that different than free ones. In the old days everything had to be typed out on a typewriter.
I’m not knocking the process, it’s just that much of this is reminiscent of photo software which keeps on touting some new device as a sales point.
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I don't think you're wrong. Submitting a PDF should be fine anyway.
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Originally posted by Centos View Post
Rambling again. Sorry. Offline, I would try Trelby or KIT Scenarist or WriterSolo. Both online/offline, I would look at WriterSolo. Or try the Demo version of Fade In Pro.
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Originally posted by gardnuk View PostArial 11? Whose preference, BBC's or FINAL DRAFT's?
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Originally posted by gardnuk View Post
I tried WriterSolo. Not bad at all. But how can it be used offline? Is it downloadable? Amazon Studios wasn't and that was a problem.STANDARD DISCLAIMER: I'm a wannabe, take whatever I write with a huge grain of salt.
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Centos, I went back yesterday (I think it was) and tried to see if our Russian friend had posted anything about Kit Scenarist recently. Maybe I missed something, but I could not find anything. Is he still working on and maintaining this program? Oh, I just remembered something that I saw online somewhere when I was looking for Kit Scenarist. I did not delve into it all, but it seemed that the program or some version of it is now for SALE instead of being free. Again, I was not paying all that much attention.
One reason that I did not pay all that much attention is that all of this about free screenwriting programs is mostly a waste of time. There are always problems with those programs. It may be a limitation on the number of scripts, or the scripts are not printable except to PDF, or the program is not Unicode-compliant (Trelby), or the program can only be used online, or the program cannot import 64-bit text (Movie Magic Screenwriter), or the program is deliberately crippled in some manner.
If you are at all serious about screenwriting (even if only as a serious hobby), save up $80 and get Fade In. Look at the trial version first. I assure you that it is a professional-level screenwriting program. I have worked with it for years. Do not fall for the propaganda that Final Draft is the standard. Let's say that it is, because most people are probably users of it. So what? You can do the same things, and more, with Fade In. And you get free updates. And you can put your licensed copy of the program onto all of your own computers (but not, of course, someone else's). You can export to .fdx Final Draft format, and import the script back into .fadein Fade In format. I have done this many times. In addition, you can write a script or a portion of a script in Fountain format with any text editor like Notepad, and then simply paste the text into Fade In or import it as Fountain. (Fountain, if you do not know, is a simple text file, sort of like email, with everything flush against the left margin and some blank lines between certain paragraphs.)
Happy writing!
"The fact that you have seen professionals write poorly is no reason for you to imitate them." - ComicBent.
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Originally posted by ComicBent View PostCentos, I went back yesterday (I think it was) and tried to see if our Russian friend had posted anything about Kit Scenarist recently. Maybe I missed something, but I could not find anything. Is he still working on and maintaining this program? Oh, I just remembered something that I saw online somewhere when I was looking for Kit Scenarist. I did not delve into it all, but it seemed that the program or some version of it is now for SALE instead of being free. Again, I was not paying all that much attention.
Originally posted by ComicBent View PostOne reason that I did not pay all that much attention is that all of this about free screenwriting programs is mostly a waste of time. There are always problems with those programs. It may be a limitation on the number of scripts, or the scripts are not printable except to PDF, or the program is not Unicode-compliant (Trelby), or the program can only be used online, or the program cannot import 64-bit text (Movie Magic Screenwriter), or the program is deliberately crippled in some manner.
Originally posted by ComicBent View PostIf you are at all serious about screenwriting (even if only as a serious hobby), save up $80 and get Fade In. Look at the trial version first. I assure you that it is a professional-level screenwriting program. I have worked with it for years. Do not fall for the propaganda that Final Draft is the standard. Let's say that it is, because most people are probably users of it. So what? You can do the same things, and more, with Fade In. And you get free updates. And you can put your licensed copy of the program onto all of your own computers (but not, of course, someone else's). You can export to .fdx Final Draft format, and import the script back into .fadein Fade In format. I have done this many times. In addition, you can write a script or a portion of a script in Fountain format with any text editor like Notepad, and then simply paste the text into Fade In or import it as Fountain. (Fountain, if you do not know, is a simple text file, sort of like email, with everything flush against the left margin and some blank lines between certain paragraphs.)
Originally posted by ComicBent View PostHappy writing!
STANDARD DISCLAIMER: I'm a wannabe, take whatever I write with a huge grain of salt.
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