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  • My Black List Experience

    Last edited by JoeNYC; 01-23-2021, 03:07 PM.

  • #2
    Thanks for sharing your BL feedback. I have to agree on a title change. "He's my man, bitch" says "this is a catfight movie" (to employ a sexist trope) which is very far from a romantic comedy. It doesn't matter where it comes from in your script. It's the first thing anyone sees when they pick up the script or look at the movie poster.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by MoviePen View Post

      Thanks for sharing your BL feedback. I have to agree on a title change. "He's my man, bitch" says "this is a catfight movie" (to employ a sexist trope) which is very far from a romantic comedy. It doesn't matter where it comes from in your script. It's the first thing anyone sees when they pick up the script or look at the movie poster.
      The "catfight" marketing confusion is a good point, but I really like "He's My Man, Bitch!" because it's edgy and it really pops. There are alternatives: "Love Sucks Ass" is edgy. There's "Friggin Love." There's "Little Miss Breakup," but this might cause marketing confusion also because it sounds like a safe, sweet PG sounding title, when the material is R-rated. There's my original title: "You Got The Look."

      Do any members have any opinions on these titles?

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      • #4
        I have to agree with MoviePen. The title is an immediate turnoff for me.

        "My Best Friend's Wedding" is very much a "He's My Man, Bitch" concept, but that title would have killed the movie. Most of the movie Julia Roberts sabotaging the other woman to get what she wants even though it isn't what her best friend wants.Takes her the entire movie to come to terms with losing her best friend to another woman.

        Thanks for sharing your Black List experience. I'm interested if you're going to rewrite it before submitting to contests? Are you still going to submit it to a ton of them or just one or two?

        It's your script. Do what you want. But it might be a mistake to ignore the comments you're receiving all together.
        "Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist,- Pablo Picasso

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        • #5
          The current title with bitch is 1995 not 2021. It sounds dated Joe. Also is your spec edgy or is it like most romantic comedies? Would you want Can't Buy Me Love to be called Hot Girl For Money or something else. That would change how the film feels, you know?

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          • #6
            [QUOTE=finalact4;n1199043 I'm interested if you're going to rewrite it before submitting to contests? Are you still going to submit it to a ton of them or just one or two?[/QUOTE]

            Thanks for you input on the title. I really did love that title, but maybe since there's a lot of resistance, I should rethink it. Maybe to "Love Sucks Ass." Expresses theme, story and attitude.

            I'm not doing any rewrites from what was mentioned in the Black List evaluations. One person gave it high scores, one low scores and one in the middle. I did the rewrites from my professional reviewers.

            Of course, if anyone gives me a note on the script that resonates with me, I have no problem in doing more work on it.

            I've already been entering the script in contests as they open for entries, such as, the Page. How many contests depends on the script. For example, if I ever address the notes to "American Slaves," I'll just enter it in the top three contests. Usually I would enter a script in the top five or six contests, but since I'm gonna post a thread on contests at the end of the 2021 contest year, I'll enter the top nine.
            Last edited by JoeNYC; 01-17-2021, 02:46 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bono View Post
              The current title with bitch is 1995 not 2021. It sounds dated Joe. Also is your spec edgy or is it like most romantic comedies? Would you want Can't Buy Me Love to be called Hot Girl For Money or something else. That would change how the film feels, you know?
              Yeah, It's a landslide against. I tell ya, I'm more upset about my title not getting any love than Reader #1's shitty scores.

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              • #8
                Stop the presses! I just heard the U2 song: "All I Want Is You." This title or the edgier "Love Sucks Ass"?
                Last edited by JoeNYC; 01-17-2021, 03:08 PM.

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                • #9
                  I don't think I'd try to go edgy in the title, because you don't seem to be describing an edgy movie. "Fvckbuddies" was a good title for that spec, because it fit the tone. "Love Sucks Ass" is not a winner, IMO.I'd pick something descriptive and neutral and quickly move on to focusing on other issues.

                  At least two out of three said "predictable," which is what some people here have been saying as you've described the script. My criticism has always been that when you pitched it, I could guess every plot point and the ending. I think you really need to find a modern clever twist on "why won't my best friend realize that I'm the right one for him?" I've never thought it was derivative of any one specific movie - I think as a plot in general, it's just well trod territory. Mix it up, use the fact that the reader will have expectations to surprise them.

                  ETA: "All I Want Is You" feels like a much better title.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JeffLowell View Post

                    I think you really need to find a modern clever twist on "why won't my best friend realize that I'm the right one for him?"
                    I've always been open, always brainstorming for a unique angle, but it always came down to the natural feeling of taking her for granted. They've known each other since they were 10. She was always there, until one day she wasn't. He didn't realize his feelings for her was love.

                    I'm entering the screenplay in contests, but I'll stay open to the possibility of a clever twist popping into my head, while I work on another screenplay. If it doesn't do well in contests, then I won't query the industry with it. Thank you for taking the time to give me your opinion.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JoeNYC View Post
                      Stop the presses! I just heard the U2 song: "All I Want Is You." This title or the edgier "Love Sucks Ass"?
                      Sorry The Edge won't sign off in letting you use that title. Also Larry feels it's not right for this project. Adam doesn't care either way. -- Bono

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JoeNYC View Post

                        I've always been open, always brainstorming for a unique angle, but it always came down to the natural feeling of taking her for granted. They've known each other since they were 10. She was always there, until one day she wasn't. He didn't realize his feelings for her was love.

                        I'm entering the screenplay in contests, but I'll stay open to the possibility of a clever twist popping into my head, while I work on another screenplay. If it doesn't do well in contests, then I won't query the industry with it. Thank you for taking the time to give me your opinion.
                        See I think writing a new romantic comedy would be 100% easier than trying to fix up an older one that I believe you first wrote many years ago. If you think of a new angle on a romantic comedy -- write a new story to go with it. Not one that's been in your head for many many years as it's hard to break free and write fresh.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JoeNYC View Post
                          Stop the presses! I just heard the U2 song: "All I Want Is You." This title or the edgier "Love Sucks Ass"?
                          Better.

                          Love Sucks Ass, well, it sucks. Why? Because no one says that. They may say, "Love Sucks."

                          One opinion.
                          "Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist,- Pablo Picasso

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bono View Post

                            See I think writing a new romantic comedy would be 100% easier than trying to fix up an older one that I believe you first wrote many years ago.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by finalact4 View Post

                              Love Sucks Ass, well, it sucks.
                              Damn. I so wanted an edgy title. I guess I better keep my targeted audience (females 25 and under) in mind and go with the romantic title: "All I want Is You." (I already sent out the script to two contests with the "He's My Man, Bitch!" title.)

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