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  • #16
    Re: Crash

    Why?

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    • #17
      Re: Crash

      Originally posted by esdavis88
      If this wins best screenplay does PTA get to accept it along with Haggis?
      In case you haven't noticed, Magnolia is a Short Cuts rip-off no more than Crash is a Magnolia rip-off.

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      • #18
        Re: Crash

        Originally posted by Biohazard
        In case you haven't noticed, Magnolia is a Short Cuts rip-off no more than Crash is a Magnolia rip-off.
        The only similarities I find between Magnolia and Crash is that both explore the theme of "redemption". Crash though is much more about showing the good and the bad in people, the black and the white, if you will. Redemption just happened to be a by-product of that theme.

        Other than that, they are completely different stories. That's what I got from it anyway.

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        • #19
          Re: Crash

          Originally posted by yvonnjanae
          You had to see "Crash" to understand racism in America?
          Hey, whoa -- why you gotta bring 'racism' into it, man ?!?

          I didn't say anything about race!

          I thought it was about class war!
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          "As human beings, our greatness lies not so much in being able to remake the world -
          that is the myth of the atomic age - as in being able to remake ourselves."
          -Mahatma Gandhi.

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          • #20
            Re: Crash

            Fvck subtle. Who buys subtle? Subtle is one of those fantasies unpaid screenwriters maintain as an excuse why they haven't sold.

            This was a great piece of dramatic writing.

            It worked.

            End of story.
            ENNIS spits in the palm of his hand, puts it on himself.

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            • #21
              Re: Crash

              Wanted to like this a whole bunch, but

              it actually might be one of the worst films of the year.

              It wasn't the loosely strung together series of unbelievable coincidences masqarading as a plot, or the sociology 101 manifesto as dialogue that made me not like it.

              It was the fact that so much effort was put into this and the filmmaker really didn't even have anything to say about anything, other than people can be both great and terrible.

              Super.

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              • #22
                Re: Crash

                Originally posted by kintnerboy
                Wanted to like this a whole bunch, but

                it actually might be one of the worst films of the year.

                It wasn't the loosely strung together series of unbelievable coincidences masqarading as a plot, or the sociology 101 manifesto as dialogue that made me not like it.

                It was the fact that so much effort was put into this and the filmmaker really didn't even have anything to say about anything, other than people can be both great and terrible.

                Super.
                Hyperbole.

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                • #23
                  Re: Crash

                  Originally posted by Pencey
                  Hyperbole.
                  Nugatory.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Crash

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                    Pencey. My problem wasn't with them carjacking the black guy. It was obvious they realized their mistake (carjacking a brother), but felt compelled to follow through with the crime. What didn't ring true to me was that the kindness of a black man led the ghetto kid to be nice to Asians.

                    Pulling the man from underneath the Navigator? To avoid a murder rap. Dumping him at the hospital. Maybe a stretch. Freeing the 'laotian' cargo after having been offered $500 a head for them? Obviously a choice of not becoming himself a slave trader; and oppression is something his character had been vocalizing against the entire movie. Plausible from that perspective, I think.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Crash

                      Originally posted by MacG
                      From now on, I guess I'll have to agree to disagree with most people on the subject of Haggis....

                      Tried once when I was in Scotland. Never again.






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                      • #26
                        Re: Crash

                        Originally posted by agitprop
                        Tried once when I was in Scotland. Never again.
                        I was wondering when someone was gonna latch onto that phrasing!

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                        • #27
                          Re: Crash

                          Originally posted by Salazkin View Post

                          Coincidence allows one to present material in a very highly condensed manner. It permitted the inclusion of several characters, as was needed.

                          Epiphany permits characters to grow and evolve without the usual gradations in their development throughout the course of a story. Thus, most of the characters could be thought to have an arc (they did grow, after all), even if it wasn't presented in its entirety.

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