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  • Thomas H
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    Originally posted by Salazkin
    Leo DiCaprio?
    Now there's a scary thought!

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  • Salazkin
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    Originally posted by Gorilla King

    It'd be interesting to see how this film would look with the filmmaking technology of today. Then again I don't think we have any actors with enough prescence to fill the role.
    Leo DiCaprio?

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  • Thomas H
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    Yep, that's right, the subtitle of the book was "A Tale of the Christ."

    I also really like the fact that they don't show Jesus' face. I'd imagine it is out of respect because I recall seeing or hearing something somewhere where someone involved with the film said that the reason behind it was because they didn't feel any actor could possibly portray Christ and so they left it ambiguous.

    It'd be interesting to see how this film would look with the filmmaking technology of today. Then again I don't think we have any actors with enough prescence to fill the role.

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  • Motiv8
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    Originally posted by Gorilla King
    Yeah I like the elements of faith in there. It's kind of interesting how drastically things have swung in terms of portraying faith on film in the last 50 or so years.
    If I remember correctly, the book cover had the title Ben Hur, and then it said "A tale of the Christ". What I liked best about the faith element in the film was that you NEVER saw the face of the actor playing Jesus. You saw him from a distance, his hand giving Judah the slave a drink, on the cross, etc. but the movie never showed the actor's features. I'm assuming that was out of respect for the subject matter, and I think it much more effective than later versions of the story, quite frankly.

    And Heston was perfect.

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  • whistlelock
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    My favorite part of Ben Hur: Heston's character was gay, and they never told him.

    The interviews with Gore Vidal are a riot.

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  • tabula rasa
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    Heston was a damn fine looking man. I couldn't care less for his politics.

    Some people run scared when a movie dares to present a positive take on 'religion' ... don't.

    It's just a movie: no one's forcing its message on you (hey, take it or leave it like you would ANY work of fiction. But to make a movie set during the Pagan Roman occupation of Judea and NOT have religious elements in it, well ... how realistic is that story?)

    It's just a movie: no one is judging your soul according to some movie's "message"

    I find it odd that a filmmaker can present characters in an outrageous dramatic context (psycho-killers, let's say) and that's not considered pushing your ideas onto an audience ... but let a filmmaker take a position on 'religion' and some people are outraged (both pro- and anti-religious people)

    The culture needs to chill out and practice what they preach, tolerance-wise ... before they (pro- and con-) wake up one day to find out what real intolerance they've let slip thru the crack while they were arguing over nonsense.

    It's a great movie, imo, if not as a whole then in broad sweeps. Heston was a powerful actor, on several levels, in several movies (TOUCH OF EVIL among them)

    I don't care what Michael Moore thinks of his politics, or what ravages Alzheimers may or not have been working on Heston's mind at that time.

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  • Thomas H
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    Yeah I like the elements of faith in there. It's kind of interesting how drastically things have swung in terms of portraying faith on film in the last 50 or so years. Back then it was perfectly normal and acceptable but now a film like The Passion stirs up huge amounts of controversey. It almost seems as if in Hollywood social tolerance has to come at the cost of religious intolerance. I think that's laregely due to ignorance and stereotypes on both sides. Although Hollywood really is a different animal than it was back then so I suppose it's not all that surprising. You don't have any John Waynes today and you would never see the top actors enlisting like they did in WWII. Oh well, everything works itself out in the end.

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  • scripter1
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    Is one of my all time favorites and one of the first films I remember seeing as a child. Unlike Hairy I remember it quite well and feel a childhood connection to this film.

    It would show at the local classic theater every couple of years and my whole family would always sit up in the balcony.

    Heston was perfect for the role and I've always found the religious portions very moving.

    It's strong, strong story telling.
    Something seriously lacking in many current films.

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  • dpaterso
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    It's a good movie up until the usual gratuitous religious hokum creeps in.

    Jack Hawkins made a fine Roman general and the sea battle was as memorable as the chariot race, with the prow rams and the slaves doomed to go down with their ships.

    -Derek
    My Web Page - naked women, bestial sex, and whopping big lies.
    Take the critiques you get with a grain of salt. Invariably, some of the critics will be kooks, bitter curmudgeons, or complete fools. ~odocoileus

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  • andlary1
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    Originally posted by Motiv8
    Must agree there. Anybody ever read the book though? I've got the movie, but not the book and was curious if the movie was faithful to the source.
    It was in our library at home but it was so old and dusty and if I could see it, why read it? I'm pretty lazy!

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  • Motiv8
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    Originally posted by Pen Dragon


    Ben-Hur is a truly great film in every sense of greatness
    Must agree there. Anybody ever read the book though? I've got the movie, but not the book and was curious if the movie was faithful to the source.

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  • Pen Dragon
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    Stephen Boyd. goddamit.

    Stephen Boyd.

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  • andlary1
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    Ben Hur always brings round memories for me and smiles. The day my mother took me into the city to see it, she ask my father if he'd like to join us.

    "No,", he replied, "don't you remember, Lois? We saw that in Chicago?"

    Mother winked at me, called out, "Oh? I forgot. When was that, Andy?"

    "1937--at the State, on Michigan Avenue!"

    Jeez!

    My parents were the oldest among my friends'. Everyone asked me why my grandparents brought me to school every day.

    I didn't like it.

    Now, as for Ben Hur. I think it depends upon whether you have a churched background. For more religious types, Heston was downright biblical sex personified. The man's pecs worked for me.

    What story? Then there was that Irish actor whose name I've temporarily forgotten.

    Then, I was so little and then came the Beatles, then who cared?

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  • Salazkin
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    Originally posted by Pen Dragon
    hairy is giving up homers left and right today and looking like a pretender. who else is in the bullpen?

    christ lime. i'm disappointed.

    you probably remember anthony quinn's donkey's sister's brother's name in Guns For San Sebastian, but draw a blank on Ben-Hur

    you suck

    Ben-Hur is a truly great film in every sense of greatness

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  • Hairy Lime
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    Good thing it's still Spring Training. Just working out the kinks.

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