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    Are horror reboots really worth it these days? Rob Zombie's Halloween did fairly well last September, but not amazing. Now Platinum Dunes, which is headed by Michael Bay, Brad Fuller, and Andrew Form, has decided to restart the Nightmare on Elm Street franchise, by restarting another new franchise from scratch. The original 1984 Wes Craven film starring Robert Englund as Freddy Krueger has spawned eight various sequels since then, including Freddy vs Jason, and has become of the most well known horror characters. But seriously, will this even turn out even remotely good?

    Platinum Dunes has said that it won't hire a writer for the new film until the writers strike is over. Dunes previously rebooted The Texas Chainsaw Massacre franchise, with two remakes in the last few years, and is working on also rebooting the Friday the 13th franchise, with that film due out in 2009. Throw Halloween and Child's Play into the mix, and we've got an endless supply of horror movie remakes arriving in the next few years. It seems that the horror genre is still thriving, but everyone is out of fresh ideas, so they're turning to remakes and reboots instead.

    The Nightmare on Elm Street franchise focuses on the psycho Freddy Krueger, a killer who haunts the subconscious dreams of teenagers and kills them in their sleep. Freddy is one of the iconic horror movie killers that most people recognize, along with Jason Voorhees from Friday the 13th and Michael Myers from Halloween.

    What's your take on this whole horror reboot situation? The only reason Halloween was as good as it was, is because Rob Zombie added his unique touch to it. I won't say that Zombie is a master of horror, but his filmmaking style, especially when it comes to Halloween, is very unique. I"m worried that both the reboots of Friday the 13th and now A Nightmare on Elm Street will be butchered (no pun intended) into an ugly mess by some over-the-top director. Let's hope I'm wrong, because I really want to see these horror characters come back in style!
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    Re: Platinum Dunes Rebooting Nightmare on Elm Street

    this one doesn't surprise me at all. expect hellraiser 2.0 or something to that effect
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    • #3
      Re: Platinum Dunes Rebooting Nightmare on Elm Street

      expect hellraiser 2.0 or something to that effect
      Hellraiser is already being remade but we can take solace in the fact that Clive Barker is producing.

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        Re: Platinum Dunes Rebooting Nightmare on Elm Street

        In before j over points out he already made a thread about this.

        My thoughts on the news, though:

        Nightmare on Elm Street is my favorite slasher franchise. I wanted to see more made but only with Robert Englund. Since he prolly won't be in the remake, I might watch, but I'm certainly not holding my breath in anticipation.

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          I don't think Englund's doing too much these days that doesn't see him work outside the odd B-grade or S2DVD horror flick. So you never know? After all, Freddy is his legacy. It's the role he's most noted for. He'd be crazy to knock it back, assuming they even offer it to him?

          I just don't see why the need for all the remakes. At least not at this rate.
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            Re: Platinum Dunes Rebooting Nightmare on Elm Street

            I know Englund isn't doing much these days (aside from the type of films you mentioned like Jack Brooks: Monster Slayer and Behind the Mask: The Rise of Leslie Vernon) but the fact that it's a remake would lead me to believe the studio is going to "go in a different direction." I mean, I would love to see him in this, I just don't think it's a matter of Englund accepting the role or not. I just don't think they'll be offering it to him (aside from the fact that he's kind of old). They'll probably just give him a courtesy role in the pic out of respect (or wtvr).

            And, to clarify, when I said I was hoping for more Freddy, I meant I wanted to see Nightmare on Elm Street 8 (or whatever number would be up next). A remake would totally blow. Who knows how they will decide to "update" it.

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              Re: Platinum Dunes Rebooting Nightmare on Elm Street

              Originally posted by Jakkal View Post
              And, to clarify, when I said I was hoping for more Freddy, I meant I wanted to see Nightmare on Elm Street 8 (or whatever number would be up next). A remake would totally blow. Who knows how they will decide to "update" it.

              I'm fairly certain this is a remake in the vein of Rob Zombie's "Halloween."

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                Re: Platinum Dunes Rebooting Nightmare on Elm Street

                Originally posted by j over View Post
                I'm fairly certain this is a remake in the vein of Rob Zombie's "Halloween."
                I have yet to see it but the critics weren't kind to that one. Not good.

                On a separate, yet not completely unrelated, note, has anyone actually ever dreamed with Freddy Kreuger? I have. Twice.

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                  Re: Platinum Dunes Rebooting Nightmare on Elm Street

                  Originally posted by Jakkal View Post
                  I have yet to see it but the critics weren't kind to that one. Not good.

                  Oh, man... are you in for a rude awakening if you choose to check it out. Very sad, indeed.

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                    Originally posted by j over View Post
                    Oh, man... are you in for a rude awakening if you choose to check it out. Very sad, indeed.
                    >.< I'd make a comment on the sad state of the horror genre these days but I'm about to go to bed. All I'm going to say is I love horror movies, however, I hardly ever watch them in the theatre anymore. Many of the recent ones just aren't worth it.

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                      Re: Platinum Dunes Rebooting Nightmare on Elm Street

                      Originally posted by Jakkal View Post
                      On a separate, yet not completely unrelated, note, has anyone actually ever dreamed with Freddy Kreuger? I have. Twice.

                      Yes. On many occasions. Heck, I've even done it on purpose a couple of times. (Lucid dreaming -- you gotta love it.)
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                        Re: Platinum Dunes Rebooting Nightmare on Elm Street

                        I feel one major reason the horror genre is on life support (no pun intended) is because mainstream studios don't respect the genre anymore.

                        Couple this with the P.C. climate to make everything family friendly, I.E. PG-13 "horror" movies and you can see why the genre has been castrated in the last five to ten years.

                        Granted, "Chainsaw", "Halloween", "Hostel" and "Saw" are all R-Rated... But the majority of films that are not torture-porn are almost always rated PG-13 -- All the crappy Asian Horror remakes are a prime example of this.

                        The other reason is films like "Hostel" and "Saw" do well... So studios invest in these franchise so they can say they are still producing "horror" when in fact these are not horror movies. They are fictional snuff films (99%) of the film.

                        Real horror is films like "The Thing", "Alien", "Nightmare on Elm Street" and "Hellraiser". Movies that frighten you not just because of gore, but because they tap into a primal fear (of the dark; unknown; loss of self; etc). These torture porn clones do nothing but gross people out. That's fine if you are a 14-year old who isn't that emotionally developed (no offense), but true horror uses a lot more than just shock and gore value to be effective, IMO.
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                          Re: Platinum Dunes Rebooting Nightmare on Elm Street

                          Originally posted by WritersBlock2010 View Post
                          I feel one major reason the horror genre is on life support (no pun intended) is because mainstream studios don't respect the genre anymore.

                          Couple this with the P.C. climate to make everything family friendly, I.E. PG-13 "horror" movies and you can see why the genre has been castrated in the last five to ten years.

                          Granted, "Chainsaw", "Halloween", "Hostel" and "Saw" are all R-Rated... But the majority of films that are not torture-porn are almost always rated PG-13 -- All the crappy Asian Horror remakes are a prime example of this.

                          The other reason is films like "Hostel" and "Saw" do well... So studios invest in these franchise so they can say they are still producing "horror" when in fact these are not horror movies. They are fictional snuff films (99%) of the film.

                          Real horror is films like "The Thing", "Alien", "Nightmare on Elm Street" and "Hellraiser". Movies that frighten you not just because of gore, but because they tap into a primal fear (of the dark; unknown; loss of self; etc). These torture porn clones do nothing but gross people out. That's fine if you are a 14-year old who isn't that emotionally developed (no offense), but true horror uses a lot more than just shock and gore value to be effective, IMO.
                          The problem with the studios (not all of 'em, but a lot) is not only do they shun the genre, they're under the impression there's no 'new' or 'original' ideas left in horror. It's like when Ridley Scott recently proclaimed Science Fiction is dead - yet you've got great spec scripts out there like Passengers and Source Code, floating around Hollywood, only to end up collecting dust on some studio execs shelf. Now, from what I've seen (and read, spec wise) it couldn't be further from the truth regarding horror. There's tons of talented film makers and writers out there, forced to chug away at the indie horror scene. Problem with that is they get no major funding or distribution, but a lot do prefer it that way, because there's very little studio interference and they get to keep a larger percentage of the gross (which usually amounts to DVD sales). This might have a lot to do with why the low budget / indepenent / DVD horror industry is still pretty strong. You pick up an issue of Fangoria, and you'll see countless ads for S2DVD titles.

                          Funny thing is, the British, French, Asian, Spanish and even us Aussies are making some really exciting horror films of late. Some eventually get picked up by Lionsgate (who else?) or the Weinsteins (God bless 'em), after playing at festivals etc, but most go unheard of or unseen by the North American market, (which is now tiny compared to the Japanese and Korean markets). What's frustrating is that there seems to be a healthy percentage of US movie goers who still want to spend their hard earned cash on horror films. So why aren't the studios tapping into that, and actively seeking fresh ideas?

                          One of the primary reasons SAW and HOSTEL did well financially, was not just because of the blood letting and gore, but because in essence they were fresh and original ideas. Who of us had really seen or heard of 'torture porn'? People want new spins on old fears. They'll respond to that. Hollywood's still fixated on this cell phone/computer technology cum horror idea that the Japs touched on nearly several years ago with films like Kairo and Ringu. Those films, when viewed for the first time were pretty darn scary because they had never been seen before. Why are we still getting these kinds of films in the US, even though they're usually shunned by fans and critics before they're even released. You only need to log onto the horror forums to see the collective groans from the fans when another Jap remake is announced.

                          On a side note: One thing I'll give the French is that they're making horror films that don't flinch on originality or brutality, and believe it or not, some of them actually have characters you give a sh!t about. FRONTIERE(S) is one such film, and has been getting rave reviews by the horror websites, both in the UK and the US. Won't be too long before US studio execs realize this, and dump the Japs like a hot steamed dumpling. You watch, pretty soon France will be the new Japan.

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                            Re: Platinum Dunes Rebooting Nightmare on Elm Street

                            Originally posted by Terrance Mulloy View Post
                            One of the primary reasons SAW and HOSTEL did well financially, was not just because of the blood letting and gore, but because in essence they were fresh and original ideas. Who of us had really seen or heard of 'torture porn'?
                            To be a pedant, not exactly fresh or original: the Guinea Pig series from the '80s and and before that, Blood Sucking Freaks.

                            The only thing new about it was taking it from the drive-in or graymarket tapes and dropping it into the multiplex with a fresh new name.
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                              Re: Platinum Dunes Rebooting Nightmare on Elm Street

                              Originally posted by Signal30 View Post
                              To be a pedant, not exactly fresh or original: the Guinea Pig series from the '80s and and before that, Blood Sucking Freaks.

                              The only thing new about it was taking it from the drive-in or graymarket tapes and dropping it into the multiplex with a fresh new name.
                              Point taken, Sig. I remember the VHS cover for BSF where that dude with the split face was drinking the guys brain juices through a straw.

                              I guess when you boil it all down, there's never a truely %100 original idea in horror. But never the less, both Saw and Hostel worked, and managed to present themselves as fresh and original to the twenty-somethings that would've never heard of BSF. Of course there's always the hardcore fans of the genre who might know about it? Think BSF came out in 82?

                              Don't forget MOTEL HELL. That was somewhat 'torture porn' too.
                              Last edited by Terrance Mulloy; 02-01-2008, 07:09 PM.
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