PGL: Studio Thinks Bad Script = Commercial?

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    I read the script and I thought it was decent. Not great, but decent. I can absolutely see how this film could make money. You must remember, the horror genre has a core group of fanatics, that will see just about any horror flick that's made available for them. This is why so many horror films,while not all go to the theatre, make good money straight to video. But with the publicity this movie has along with the television show, people get a so-called behind the scenes look and then get to see the final product.

    PGL just needs to find that right balance between what they show during the episodes and what we see on screen. If I were just a person who didn't care for writing, I'd stop watching the show and I'd never see it in the theatre because they've already made this movie appear to be a sure loser.

    $5.50 for a ticket? Where are you? I wish I could pay that much at a MATINEE and get by with five and a half bucks.

    And yes the system is completely flawed. I would never dream of paying for a contest in which my very competitors are judging me.

    But I do think PGL is a good thing for us aspiring writers. Most of the top three's in all contests have done well for themselves.

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    but I would definitely pay $5.50 (matinee) to go see it
    You must be from the midwest.

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    But I love it when people talk s*** about scripts they haven't even read.
    You're new here, aren't you?

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    The way the script finalists are chosen is absolutely flawed. To submit a script I believe you have to turn around and review 3 other scripts. And according to some reviewers, there are ways to answer the polling questions without even reading the scripts. I would never dream of paying to submit something of mine to a contest that is so half-a$$ed.

    The show is fantastic. I love that it is on Bravo this year, since I didn't have HBO to watch it before.

    I have read "Feast". It was awful with no plot and I couldn't have cared less about the characters. I read it before it won and then when I heard it won, I was like "huh?" And according to what I saw of the finalist shorts, Gulager was the only director finalist who would have a prayer of saving that script. Even if he lives in his own little world. At least he has started stating his opinion, even if it is to put 4 of his family members in the movie. Hey, he's in a position to ask, so what the hell, right? He needs to learn when to give it up though, before pissing everybody off.

    So I just read "Wildcard" last week, and it wasn't anything special. Some decent dialogue, but the characters were weakly developed and the plot was blah. I'm surprised Wes Craven optioned it, but maybe he read something I didn't.

    Then I started reading "Does Anybody Remember When...?" the other day. I've read up to page 30 so far and this is one quirky script. It had a little bit of a rocky start, but it's off the wall, extremely technically detailed (the writer put a lot of creative thought into the time-travel deal), and it's actually funny. I'm going to go finish reading it now. It deserves to be optioned. Yeah, I can see why it may (will) be hard to market, but I would definitely pay $5.50 (matinee) to go see it.

    Just my 2 cents. But I love it when people talk s*** about scripts they haven't even read. :rollin

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    VARIETY just reported that Ben Affleck and the FEAST producers optioned the final Top 3 Script, DOES ANYONE HERE REMEMBER WHEN HANS GRUBENSTEIN INVENTED TIME TRAVEL....

    Sh!t, not a bad year to be a Top 3 candidate! Everyone's script is getting a shot at seeing the big screen!

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    My main point is this:

    A good script will get made(even in Hollywood). Contests, online sources, networking, etc are the tools producers, writers, directors, etc use to get the real "greenlight".

    BTW: I also heard the PGL finalist project; Prisoner is now in production.

    :smokin

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    Perhaps "understand" is the wrong word. "Keep interest" could work. But my point is, the show -- not just the movie -- needs to appeal to a wider audience now that viewers are just as important as ticket sales.

    Ele...

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    Re: PGL 3: the first show...

    huh? I'd hardly call BOSH an "art film you can't understand" it's not Felini for c-sakes. It was like bad Hallmark channel or something, talk about OTN. (even though I still maintain the script wasn't as horrendous as the film... but whatever).

    Do you know that Bravo is paying less? Maybe they need to save it. It's always made interesting TV but it's always seemed to have a lack of focus, drive, passion... je ne sais quois.




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    Re: PGL 3: the first show...

    You wanna know why it went from indie to mainstream films? Because it went from HBO to Bravo. Gotta pay the bills now. And they'll get more viewers interested in watching a normal, everyday movie being made than some art film they can't understand.

    Ele...

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    Re: PGL 3: the first show...

    everyone knew from the beginning it was genre/horror/thriller this year (go search the archive).

    i think it's all milked for reality TV. the drama! the conflict!

    I mean, if they (Damon and Affleck) really want to "discover" new talent -- then run a legit contest. The voting has always been way questionable and a big issue. It's not hard to find PLENTY of people to read scripts and evalaute for nomial or no fee to serve as judges and these are often industry people and/or people with experience.

    PGL has always been a bit of an enigma. Now it's laughable that they're taking a total arthouse/indie contest and trying to turn it into a way for a studio to make money. What the??
    It's not hard for the reality TV show people to make a deal with the making the film people. I don't know, the enigma continues.
    imo, it's jumped the shark.

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    Re: PGL 3: the first show...

    actually, i think picking the genre on the 11th hour makes more sense than giving someone a months notice. it would eliminate the poor quality quickie scripts and only scripts that have been written and hopefully rewritten and polished will have a chance.

    Gilly - i personally did NOT influence the voting system. no need to point fingers but, if you're ever in a room where Damon makes a decision about producing your script you might want to be less critical about projects that he's done in the past.

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    Re: PGL 3: the first show...

    I'm not saying it's impossible RK, but there's a big difference between a first draft written in a month and a polished script.

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    Re: PGL 3: the first show...

    This contest was specifically horror this year.

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    Re: PGL 3: the first show...

    I recall them saying in the very beginning that they were looking for genre pics...especially horror.

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    Re: PGL 3: the first show...

    Why should they give us months of notice of what kind of script they're looking for? It's people who write scripts specifically for the parameters of a contest that create all of the crap that's out there.

    It goes like this: they announce what they're looking for. If you happen to have it, you're a lucky SOB and you submit. That's life.

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