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  • A General Note on Script Reading

    Before I get started on this, I want to say one thing, and I want you all to believe me: I understand. Completely. Trust me on this.

    That in mind, I have been reading a lot of posts all over the board. There is one upsetting trend that I'm noticing, and if there's any way I can perhaps nip it in the bud, I'd like to try. It involves the following phrase or any of its many siblings:

    "I got about (so-and-so number of) pages into SCRIPT XYZ, and I just couldn't get into it, so I stopped reading."

    Ugh.

    Look, we're all guilty of it. As a reader, there were days where there was nothing I wanted to do more than stop reading a script, throw it against the wall, and write for my brief, "This is an epic f***ing disaster. What more do you need to know?" And I would have felt good. However, as I had to write five pages detailing not only the script's plot and the reasons why it was f***ing disastrous, I couldn't (though a dozen or so scripts did, indeed, hit my wall in the course of being read...some a couple of times). And you know what? I can say very plainly that I'm better off because of that.

    It's true: there are some scripts that are patently awful in their first two acts that are saved - usually on a conceptual level - by their third act. Sometimes it's SPECIFICALLY the ending that saves it. It's rare, yes. Very rare. Nine times out of ten you'll find the script you hated the first half of has a similarly detestable second half.

    But it's not for that reason that I'm IMPLORING you to stick with the bad scripts: it's because they're bad. It's because they're flawed. And it's because YOU DON'T WANT TO EVER MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES.

    What kind of education are you getting out of reading half of a script? A third of a script? You're getting exactly a half or a third of an education, that's what. And that's not enough. Reading good scripts can teach you what to do (on a macro level). On the other side of the coin, reading bad scripts can teach you what NOT to do. And not only is that just as valuable - sometimes more, in fact - but you don't want to make the mistake of thinking that just reading good scripts will teach you what not to do. It won't. Think of it this way: if you're a pilot-in-training working on a flight simulator, you're going to want to take your fair share of incident-free simulations. But don't you need an equal (or greater) number of disaster-ridden simulations to work through as well? So you'll know what can f*** you up before it happens?

    The fact of the matter is that if you're not with a script from takeoff through landing (shamelessly continuing my brilliant analogy), you're not getting the training you need. You're not becoming a better writer. You're not becoming a better analyist. You don't know your sh*t. Yes, again, nine times out of ten that script is going to be EXACTLY what you thought it was going to be. But the question isn't IF that's the case, but WHY that makes pushing through worth it.

    I will offer up only one reason to disregard my advice: if a script is so poorly written as to make you wonder if English is the writer's third or fourth language, just drop it. That's going to kill your brain.

    Worst of all, some of you are actually offering REVIEWS of scripts you've only read part of, and that's just borderline unethical. If a writer works hard enough to put something out there for you to read, you should at least give him/her the courtesy of finishing it before you trash it. And if you don't...well then you really can't speak intelligently about it, can you? At the very least just offer up a, "I couldn't get into it so I stopped reading," and leave it at that.

    I prompt this only as someone who has been there and who has benefitted greatly from the misery. A script should only take an hour or so of your time altogether, and if you're going to put in that much time, you might as well take it all the way. You will be a better writer for it, I promise you.

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    Re: A General Note on Script Reading

    Guilty your honor!

    You're of course right. But man is it hard to get through some of these guys. What I've done to make it easier is go over to SimplyScripts and read some of their unproduced screenplays. That reminds me that what I'm reading isn't nearly as bad as what I make it out to be. The first three scripts I downloaded from there (completely randomly mind you) all started with a room of guys getting high and talking. Talking for a really long time.

    You sure are a lot more respectful of writers than this guy...
    http://www.wordplayer.com/forums/scr...cgi?read=28483
    Script Reviews - 5 a week! http://scriptshadow.blogspot.com/

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    • #3
      Re: A General Note on Script Reading

      Edit, moved to another thread...
      Script Reviews - 5 a week! http://scriptshadow.blogspot.com/

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      • #4
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        Very much agree Goose. I also liked your thoughts on the Diablo UnitedSOT thread.

        It's ture. I often push myself to read a script till end, even if I'm yawning. I want to give the writer the benefit of the doubt. I've also learned from the best: Adaptation, to the not to so great. Sometimes in the flaws of others, we notice the flaws in our own script.

        I quite like those moments. Keeps me on my toes.
        You don't ask, you don't get! - Don Carmody

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        • #5
          Re: A General Note on Script Reading

          I'm guilty of this. Worse, I've dropped a few comments about scripts I didn't even finish. That's not a good thing. Thanks for the reminder.

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          • #6
            Re: A General Note on Script Reading

            Originally posted by Nigel_T View Post
            I'm guilty of this. Worse, I've dropped a few comments about scripts I didn't even finish. That's not a good thing. Thanks for the reminder.
            That's nothing! I post five review threads of scripts I haven't finished. Though they're more to let people know about them in case they're interested. And I would never review a script I've only read in part without mentioning it.
            Script Reviews - 5 a week! http://scriptshadow.blogspot.com/

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            • #7
              Re: A General Note on Script Reading

              Originally posted by wilsoneads View Post
              You sure are a lot more respectful of writers than this guy...
              http://www.wordplayer.com/forums/scr...cgi?read=28483
              Hey Wilson, thanks for the link. An insightful read.

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              • #8
                Re: A General Note on Script Reading

                You're welcome. That guy's pretty angry right?

                Although with all these scripts I've been reading of late, I found myself nodding my head a lot, lol. What does that say about me??
                Script Reviews - 5 a week! http://scriptshadow.blogspot.com/

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                • #9
                  Re: A General Note on Script Reading

                  Originally posted by wilsoneads View Post
                  That's nothing! I post five review threads of scripts I haven't finished.
                  Granted, but at least your reviews are in-depth, even with scripts you didn't finish. I recently posted a somewhat harsh comment about "A Week With Will" after reading only 30-40 pages. Not very cool of me.

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                    Re: A General Note on Script Reading

                    wilsoneads -

                    You get a pass on your Blacklist coverage because your post was more about why you stopped reading and what the scripts were about than critiquing what you read, giving everyone else a chance to form their own opinions. You gave everyone some insight and you weren't critical, just upfront, which is different in my estimation.

                    Nigel_T -

                    Don't beat yourself up over it. It happens. I'll tell you exactly what you're going to find one day: you will finish a script that you absolutely hate for 50-70 pages, and then the last 30-40 will completely blow you away. And after that you will read almost every script to completion. And you will be continually disappointed.

                    I don't know what I was going for there other than to say that screenwriting analysis and theory is a fickle, b*tch mistress.

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                    • #11
                      Re: A General Note on Script Reading

                      I think the best education* comes from reading scripts that fall somewhere between mediocre and competent, and figuring out why they're not better and how they could be better -- i.e., attempting to bridge the gap, in your own mind, between what the writer was trying to do and what he or she ended up doing. And then pondering WHY the writer fell short of the potential inherent in the concept and/or characters. That's the real trick. What was the writer thinking? Can you see the wheels in his or her brain turning when you read the script? Can you understand why he or she missed a couple of golden opportunities to create conflict or blew off an obligatory scene in favor of something you didn't feel was as important, dramatically? (Note: I think the Coens are brilliant at eschewing plot-driven obligatory scenes in favor of theme-driven ones, but that's another topic for another day.)

                      Really bad scripts (I'm talking stuff that's just plain incoherent) are pretty much a waste of time on every level.

                      Good and great scripts, on the other hand, are required reading.

                      * Okay, I'm indulging in a bit of hyperbole here. The best education comes from reading everything you can get your hands on, and really digging into how and why the classics (film, script, literature, etc.) work so well.
                      "Tone is now engaged in a furious Google search for Leighton Meester's keester." -- A friend of mine

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                      • #12
                        Re: A General Note on Script Reading

                        Originally posted by goosetown View Post
                        I'll tell you exactly what you're going to find one day: you will finish a script that you absolutely hate for 50-70 pages, and then the last 30-40 will completely blow you away.
                        A certain script, which shall remain nameless, won me over that way. For years, I couldn't get past the first thirty pages. I tried on about half-a-dozen occasions, always starting from page one. Couldn't do it. Then one day I forced myself to read the whole thing and was rewarded with an experience that, while not orgasmic or anything, DID make me glad I had finally bitten the bullet.
                        "Tone is now engaged in a furious Google search for Leighton Meester's keester." -- A friend of mine

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                        • #13
                          Re: A General Note on Script Reading

                          Ralphy: you make an important point here, and what I said before is worth qualifying.

                          When I talk about "bad" scripts, I'm usually talking about something that's mediocre or competent (which I consider to be the same thing). How'd they get to be synonymous with crap? Because A) great scripts that are really great tend to cast a rather dark shadow over everything else and B) because most of the junk that falls in to the "mediocre/competent" contingent runs together in a cesspool of bland.

                          Perhaps the best way to think about it is like this: a "great" script gets bought and, most of the time, ends up getting produced...even if the end result is perfectly lackluster; a "good" to "decent" script ends up getting bought and sits on a shelf somewhere; a "bad" script never even makes it that far. Now there are OBVIOUS exceptions to each of these rules, but I think if you approach script reading with that as a theory, you're on the right track.

                          Here's another way to look at it: you can get 50 pages into a "bad" script, right? But if you got 50 pages in, it can't be THAT "bad", but I could completley understand someone labeling it as such. And that puts incomprehensible scripts, as you mentioned, in another category unto itself entirely.

                          That work for everyone?

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                          • #14
                            Re: A General Note on Script Reading

                            A really nice thread guys.

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                              Re: A General Note on Script Reading

                              Life is too short to be reading bad scripts.
                              Twitter: @WriterLe

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