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  • #16
    Re: Sleepng Beauty

    It just goes to show: two different SLEEPING BEAUTY projects, two different takes.
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    • #17
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      Originally posted by sc111 View Post
      On scriptshadow he mentions the lead doesn't know what's done to her and the audience doesn't know either because it's thru her POV.
      I have no idea what Scriptshadow is talking about. As usual he likely completely missed the point and babbled on about nonsense. (See also: Personal Opinion. Not looking to piss off his Die Hard fans.)

      We are told the beginning of what happens to her each time she enters the "The Sleep Chamber." And are more or less, at least in my case, are pretty satisfied with what to expect there after. Continuing on would be pointless as such. I have two different drafts of this and in neither one is it described as SS did above. That suggests she went to sleep and we awake with her after the fact. Not even close. I also need to mention that while she is not fully aware of what is happening while asleep, she is fully wiling and for the most part knows what to expect. And in the characters defense she does get curious at the end. However, at no point is her physical condition after the fact affected by anything not related to whatever the nasty cocktail of drugs they give her to fully knock her out is. Less a mark of some sort on her back after a particularly vile session with a real prick. But that has also been addressed and dealt with within the script. Very clearly without stating exactly what. The bottom line is that she is a willing participant at all times. If that makes it even less or more creepy is all in your personal views on such things.

      Just for reference, in case anyone that has a copy wants to check it out for themselves, I am referencing two different drafts. One is labeled 5 and the other is labeled 10. Just for verification if you'd like to read and determine an opinion for yourselves. There are several minor edits and a new tweak to the ending between drafts. But for the most part both are the same. At least in all the really important elements of the script. The page differential between both is only 2 pages.

      Like I said before, it's a brutal read. But not for the reason most are suggesting. What if any audience this has is lost on me. This is NOT at all a mainstream film. You couldn't sell this thing with Angelina Jolie in the lead. Just to make a point. It also couldn't possibly have cost all that much to make. Even less considering it's Australian roots.

      In another aspect.... This will seriously launch Emily Browning to another level. If it makes a cent or not is irrelevant. This is an absolutely fearless role to inhabit. I have to give her major props for both taking it and actually going through with it. Not a single "A" list female star I can think of would have to balls to attempt this. It is quite literally Sharon Stone in Basic Instinct for the Indie Age. There is simply no way around the nudity or nature of this thing as written. The willingness to put herself totally out there besides that element is going to get her name mentioned with a crap load of roles she would never have been thought of for otherwise. It's both a brave and brilliant career move. I applaud her either way and am very curious to see how this plays out.

      P.S. Before someone asks... The other Sleeping Beauty is a mind bender in it's own right. However, in the current race to reinvent all, it is both equally creative and tiring. If that makes sense. I have great curiosity to how that will play out in the end as well.
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      • #18
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        Granted I haven't read any version. Since you've read two, what would you say is the predominant theme?
        Advice from writer, Kelly Sue DeConnick. "Try this: if you can replace your female character with a sexy lamp and the story still basically works, maybe you need another draft.-

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        • #19
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          Originally posted by sc111 View Post
          Granted I haven't read any version. Since you've read two, what would you say is the predominant theme?
          The character really is asleep coasting through life without any emotion or feeling at all. Till the events of the end basically wake her up. It really is a dark and twisted modern day redo of Sleeping Beauty. Only this time there is no prince or soul alive that can awake her. She is awake. And has to find something that can wake herself up. Imagine if the horror of modern day life weighed down on a Sleeping Beauty as written by Disney. Take away all the elements that make it a fairy tale. Imagine she was never taught love and her closest friend was an Alcoholic drinking himself to death. Imagine she had nobody to teach her simply basic interaction and her only means for real human contact was physical. She simply has no clue how to properly communicate with other people. Thus evidenced by her handling of her early living situation. She accepts all the ugly things in her life as if they are common. I would have enjoyed some background but it would really be defeatist to the attempt.

          If I had to pick one thing.... I would say the predominant theme here is SURVIVAL. And the funny thing about that is our main character doesn't even really know that till the end.

          But remember I am shrink. This is just how my brain works. From a psychological standpoint it's a fascinating character. Which is something we can't say about most similar type attempts.

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          • #20
            Re: Sleepng Beauty

            Well, I can't discuss it because I haven't read it. But, as a woman, I have to say the core concept gives me the creeps. There would have to be some amazing story points and character study to get me past the "ugh" factor.


            Originally posted by boynotorious View Post
            The character really is asleep coasting through life without any emotion or feeling at all. Till the events of the end basically wake her up. It really is a dark and twisted modern day redo of Sleeping Beauty. Only this time there is no prince or soul alive that can awake her. She is awake. And has to find something that can wake herself up. Imagine if the horror of modern day life weighed down on a Sleeping Beauty as written by Disney. Take away all the elements that make it a fairy tale. Imagine she was never taught love and her closest friend was an Alcoholic drinking himself to death. Imagine she had nobody to teach her simply basic interaction and her only means for real human contact was physical. She simply has no clue how to properly communicate with other people. Thus evidenced by her handling of her early living situation. She accepts all the ugly things in her life as if they are common. I would have enjoyed some background but it would really be defeatist to the attempt.
            It's not hard for me to imagine this person -- our society is rife with such women (and men). Many come from the foster care system. Many come from addicted and/or abusive parents barely surviving their childhood.

            That's why I said above there would have to be some kind of amazing redemption angle for me to get over my initial reaction. I mean -- my snarkiness aside -- the character you describe sounds like a guest on Jerry Springer, no?

            Originally posted by boynotorious View Post

            If I had to pick one thing.... I would say the predominant theme here is SURVIVAL. And the funny thing about that is our main character doesn't even really know that till the end.
            The fact that she doesn't realize it doesn't surprise me. I have experience with foster kids. The younger they are when the go into the system, the more ingrained their automatic survival/coping techniques are. They learn young to do what they have to do to survive. They're on automatic. There's no self-awareness. Manipulating people and exploiting situations to meet their needs becomes second nature. I've seen kids who can barely read, barely verbalize their thoughts, scan a room and zero in on the one person they can most likely manipulate. Years of neglect - benign or otherwise - has reduced them to base mammal survival instincts.

            In my opinion, it's too easy to exploit such a character for shock value. Too easy to rub the noses of middle America in the hard reality of this society's underbelly.

            But like I said, I don't know how the story is executed but my cynicism tells me the subject matter makes it too easy to collapse into sensationalism, voyuerism, shock for the sake of shock. We'll see.

            Originally posted by boynotorious View Post
            But remember I am shrink. This is just how my brain works. From a psychological standpoint it's a fascinating character. Which is something we can't say about most similar type attempts.
            Ahhh. My ex is a shrink. LOL!!

            Originally posted by boynotorious View Post

            @ SC

            Get my e-mail addy from our mutual friend. Drop me a line.
            Will do.
            Advice from writer, Kelly Sue DeConnick. "Try this: if you can replace your female character with a sexy lamp and the story still basically works, maybe you need another draft.-

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            • #21
              Re: Sleepng Beauty

              I just read Sleeping Beauty* and I have to say it's very... boring. Like boynotorious said, she doesn't find out until the end and the build up isn't worth it. It seems like it's just a 90 minute softcore porn.

              Keep in mind I don't know what draft I'm reading. It could be a really early one. Regardless, it's terribly written imho.
              Thank you for reading my opinion.

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              • #22
                Re: Sleepng Beauty

                Drew McWeeny just reviewed SLEEPING BEAUTY from Cannes today: http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/motion-c...emily-browning
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                • #23
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                  Variety has also reviewed it: http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117945195/

                  102 minutes from a 60 page screenplay.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Sleepng Beauty

                    Reviews coming out of Cannes don't seem largely positive, except for the performance of the cast (Browning in particular). I've heard the words "dull" and "boring" mentioned several times.

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