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  • one seven spectrum
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    Reviews coming out of Cannes don't seem largely positive, except for the performance of the cast (Browning in particular). I've heard the words "dull" and "boring" mentioned several times.

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  • blue439
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    Variety has also reviewed it: http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117945195/

    102 minutes from a 60 page screenplay.

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  • The White Album
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    Drew McWeeny just reviewed SLEEPING BEAUTY from Cannes today: http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/motion-c...emily-browning

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  • huge_tree
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    I just read Sleeping Beauty* and I have to say it's very... boring. Like boynotorious said, she doesn't find out until the end and the build up isn't worth it. It seems like it's just a 90 minute softcore porn.

    Keep in mind I don't know what draft I'm reading. It could be a really early one. Regardless, it's terribly written imho.

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  • sc111
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    Well, I can't discuss it because I haven't read it. But, as a woman, I have to say the core concept gives me the creeps. There would have to be some amazing story points and character study to get me past the "ugh" factor.


    Originally posted by boynotorious View Post
    The character really is asleep coasting through life without any emotion or feeling at all. Till the events of the end basically wake her up. It really is a dark and twisted modern day redo of Sleeping Beauty. Only this time there is no prince or soul alive that can awake her. She is awake. And has to find something that can wake herself up. Imagine if the horror of modern day life weighed down on a Sleeping Beauty as written by Disney. Take away all the elements that make it a fairy tale. Imagine she was never taught love and her closest friend was an Alcoholic drinking himself to death. Imagine she had nobody to teach her simply basic interaction and her only means for real human contact was physical. She simply has no clue how to properly communicate with other people. Thus evidenced by her handling of her early living situation. She accepts all the ugly things in her life as if they are common. I would have enjoyed some background but it would really be defeatist to the attempt.
    It's not hard for me to imagine this person -- our society is rife with such women (and men). Many come from the foster care system. Many come from addicted and/or abusive parents barely surviving their childhood.

    That's why I said above there would have to be some kind of amazing redemption angle for me to get over my initial reaction. I mean -- my snarkiness aside -- the character you describe sounds like a guest on Jerry Springer, no?

    Originally posted by boynotorious View Post

    If I had to pick one thing.... I would say the predominant theme here is SURVIVAL. And the funny thing about that is our main character doesn't even really know that till the end.
    The fact that she doesn't realize it doesn't surprise me. I have experience with foster kids. The younger they are when the go into the system, the more ingrained their automatic survival/coping techniques are. They learn young to do what they have to do to survive. They're on automatic. There's no self-awareness. Manipulating people and exploiting situations to meet their needs becomes second nature. I've seen kids who can barely read, barely verbalize their thoughts, scan a room and zero in on the one person they can most likely manipulate. Years of neglect - benign or otherwise - has reduced them to base mammal survival instincts.

    In my opinion, it's too easy to exploit such a character for shock value. Too easy to rub the noses of middle America in the hard reality of this society's underbelly.

    But like I said, I don't know how the story is executed but my cynicism tells me the subject matter makes it too easy to collapse into sensationalism, voyuerism, shock for the sake of shock. We'll see.

    Originally posted by boynotorious View Post
    But remember I am shrink. This is just how my brain works. From a psychological standpoint it's a fascinating character. Which is something we can't say about most similar type attempts.
    Ahhh. My ex is a shrink. LOL!!

    Originally posted by boynotorious View Post

    @ SC

    Get my e-mail addy from our mutual friend. Drop me a line.
    Will do.

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  • boynotorious
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    Originally posted by sc111 View Post
    Granted I haven't read any version. Since you've read two, what would you say is the predominant theme?
    The character really is asleep coasting through life without any emotion or feeling at all. Till the events of the end basically wake her up. It really is a dark and twisted modern day redo of Sleeping Beauty. Only this time there is no prince or soul alive that can awake her. She is awake. And has to find something that can wake herself up. Imagine if the horror of modern day life weighed down on a Sleeping Beauty as written by Disney. Take away all the elements that make it a fairy tale. Imagine she was never taught love and her closest friend was an Alcoholic drinking himself to death. Imagine she had nobody to teach her simply basic interaction and her only means for real human contact was physical. She simply has no clue how to properly communicate with other people. Thus evidenced by her handling of her early living situation. She accepts all the ugly things in her life as if they are common. I would have enjoyed some background but it would really be defeatist to the attempt.

    If I had to pick one thing.... I would say the predominant theme here is SURVIVAL. And the funny thing about that is our main character doesn't even really know that till the end.

    But remember I am shrink. This is just how my brain works. From a psychological standpoint it's a fascinating character. Which is something we can't say about most similar type attempts.

    @ SC

    Get my e-mail addy from our mutual friend. Drop me a line.

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  • sc111
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    Granted I haven't read any version. Since you've read two, what would you say is the predominant theme?

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  • boynotorious
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    Originally posted by sc111 View Post
    On scriptshadow he mentions the lead doesn't know what's done to her and the audience doesn't know either because it's thru her POV.
    I have no idea what Scriptshadow is talking about. As usual he likely completely missed the point and babbled on about nonsense. (See also: Personal Opinion. Not looking to piss off his Die Hard fans.)

    We are told the beginning of what happens to her each time she enters the "The Sleep Chamber." And are more or less, at least in my case, are pretty satisfied with what to expect there after. Continuing on would be pointless as such. I have two different drafts of this and in neither one is it described as SS did above. That suggests she went to sleep and we awake with her after the fact. Not even close. I also need to mention that while she is not fully aware of what is happening while asleep, she is fully wiling and for the most part knows what to expect. And in the characters defense she does get curious at the end. However, at no point is her physical condition after the fact affected by anything not related to whatever the nasty cocktail of drugs they give her to fully knock her out is. Less a mark of some sort on her back after a particularly vile session with a real prick. But that has also been addressed and dealt with within the script. Very clearly without stating exactly what. The bottom line is that she is a willing participant at all times. If that makes it even less or more creepy is all in your personal views on such things.

    Just for reference, in case anyone that has a copy wants to check it out for themselves, I am referencing two different drafts. One is labeled 5 and the other is labeled 10. Just for verification if you'd like to read and determine an opinion for yourselves. There are several minor edits and a new tweak to the ending between drafts. But for the most part both are the same. At least in all the really important elements of the script. The page differential between both is only 2 pages.

    Like I said before, it's a brutal read. But not for the reason most are suggesting. What if any audience this has is lost on me. This is NOT at all a mainstream film. You couldn't sell this thing with Angelina Jolie in the lead. Just to make a point. It also couldn't possibly have cost all that much to make. Even less considering it's Australian roots.

    In another aspect.... This will seriously launch Emily Browning to another level. If it makes a cent or not is irrelevant. This is an absolutely fearless role to inhabit. I have to give her major props for both taking it and actually going through with it. Not a single "A" list female star I can think of would have to balls to attempt this. It is quite literally Sharon Stone in Basic Instinct for the Indie Age. There is simply no way around the nudity or nature of this thing as written. The willingness to put herself totally out there besides that element is going to get her name mentioned with a crap load of roles she would never have been thought of for otherwise. It's both a brave and brilliant career move. I applaud her either way and am very curious to see how this plays out.

    P.S. Before someone asks... The other Sleeping Beauty is a mind bender in it's own right. However, in the current race to reinvent all, it is both equally creative and tiring. If that makes sense. I have great curiosity to how that will play out in the end as well.

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  • LIMAMA
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    It just goes to show: two different SLEEPING BEAUTY projects, two different takes.

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  • sc111
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    This is interesting, boynotorious. However, the "no penetration" angle makes it even more bizarre, IMO. But not a good kind of bizarre.

    Who's the market for this script? Women who so abhor sex they prefer being in a temporary coma yet - even then - reassured there will be no penetration when men "do things" to them. It sounds like arrested sexual development to me.

    On scriptshadow he mentions the lead doesn't know what's done to her and the audience doesn't know either because it's thru her POV.

    Will not showing what the men do to her appeal to the male market??

    My feeling? This is a Black Swan wannabe thing. Which sort of ticks me off considering how women are portrayed in a good portion of films. And now this.

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  • boynotorious
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    I actually just read both "Sleeping Beauty" titled scripts back to back unable to sleep earlier this week. This particular one reads very David Cronenberg. It's 66 pages or so of anguish and misery. Still no where nears as vile as the logline suggests. Rule #1 of her "Sleeping Beauty" sessions is no penetration. So rule that out quickly. This is something else entirely. I really can't even begin to describe how sexual it isn't. The sex and nudity here is played like twisted character development. I can total see what drew Emily Browning and Mia Wasikowska before that to this project. They are playing a vacant lot faking human emotion and more or less using sex and their bodies to feel.... well.... anything. It's a hard read. But not as sick and degrading as what your all assuming.

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  • LIMAMA
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    Originally posted by NikeeGoddess View Post
    more counter to the gag:
    she fits a razor blade inside her vagigi
    that oughta do it.
    Or teeth. Ooops, already been done.

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  • NikeeGoddess
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    more counter to the gag:
    she fits a razor blade inside her vagigi
    that oughta do it.

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  • sc111
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    Ohhhhh. Please. I'm starting to gag. I have a suggestion for a counterpoint concept:

    Sleeping Ninja

    When men "do" things to a narcoplectic (sp?) woman as she sleeps, she rips their hearts out with Ninja moves she can't remember in the morning.

    (My theory: if a woman has "erotic fantasies" of men "doing things" to her as she sleeps, she needs therapy. Fast. I mean, look at the phrase "doing things" ... sounds like a little child. This is sad.)

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  • NikeeGoddess
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    i have memories of that disturbing scene in frances (jessica lange) when an orderly at a psychiatric hospital pimped out the doped up body of a movie star.

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